Is not clinching when hurt a weakness?

[dan_cov]

I hear this thrown around a lot but from experience and many years of studying footage I don't think it is a weakness. In some fighters, definitely.

But take for example Marquez or say Sergio Martinez, some maybe argue when they are hurt they are at their most dangerous!

A lot of times when you have a fighter hurt, you go in for the kill and neglect defense. The last thing on your mind is them throwing combinations back.

You have a guy hurt, on the ropes, honestly how many times/how many times do you jab your way in? How many times do you go for the kill? How many times do you think about keeping a tight D?
You're between their legs, they're squared up - do you take things for granted>

Bit drunk here just it came to mind and I feel its not actually your everyday convo if you get me. Hope you're all having a good Christmas!

[Larry the boss]

No not at all some fighters are more dangerous when hurt,every fighter is wired differently

[DeadLikeMe]

I'm not sure clinching would've been wise for Sergio against JCCj...clinching would've played right into JCCj's strengths.

[LeG00N]

out of the 12 times Marquez has gotten dropped I think i've only seen Marquez clinch once or twice and it was to reset himself for a counter attack as oppose to clinching because he was hurt.

I personally can't stand clinchers that clinch as part of their offensive strategy like Ward, Alexander and Molina do. I do think it's permissible to clinch if you're hurt

[ElBossHogg™]

as a genereal rule of thumb you should clinch, tie up when your hurt. Why risk it. Your more vuneral and prone to making mistakes and that chin and you yourself is weak. clinch get your bearings and come back. Marquez and sergio dont clinch cause they have too much pride and they are good enough to get away with that, lesser fighters would get KO.

[dan_cov]

No not at all some fighters are more dangerous when hurt,every fighter is wired differently

This is true. But do you feel you when you boxed you took it a bit too much for granted/most fighters do?

I can't help but look at Marquez, the guy amazes me how he is able to somehow stay composed even when seemingly out and fire back such beautiful combinations.

I almost pity opponents when they have him hurt, knowing they're going to try go in for the kill to likely meet their fate.

[LeG00N]

This is true. But do you feel you when you boxed you took it a bit too much for granted/most fighters do?

I can't help but look at Marquez, the guy amazes me how he is able to somehow stay composed even when seemingly out and fire back such beautiful combinations.

I almost pity opponents when they have him hurt, knowing they're going to try go in for the kill to likely meet their fate.

Katsidis made a reference to this after the fight, he said he was hesitant to go in for the kill because he knew how dangerous Marquez was when hurt.

Although it did seem like he stepped up his offensive, to no success Marquez was landing combos by the end of the round.

[dan_cov]

Katsidis made a reference to this after the fight, he said he was hesitant to go in for the kill because he knew how dangerous Marquez was when hurt.

Although it did seem like he stepped up his offensive, to no success Marquez was landing combos by the end of the round.

Katsidis is a lot more intelligent than people give him credit for & tbh I don't think he did much wrong in that fight he was just outgunned. It was a beautiful performance from both guys and maybe one of my personal favourites of all time. Too his credit he didn't rush in, he tried applying intelligent pressure IMO but once you hit Marquez on the button, 9/10 you've woken a beast.

That shot and the way Marquez came back is why I love boxing. I couldn't believe what I was seeing and it made my heart race! For me that was one of the most criminally underrated fights maybe ever.

[Capaedia]

Part of it is also who is fighting you.

It may work for Marquez if he was hurt bad and keeping the exchange going against Pacquiao, but how would this work against an elusive, patient fighter?

Think about it, if Ward, Mayweather or Wlad have you hurt, do you really think the best thing would be to try and exchange with them.

Of course there are situations where it works better to fight back and not hold (Marquez picks them very well, I doubt he would've tried to exchange with Mayweather if he was ever out on his feet. Thankfully he was not).

If you land one good punch and back them off and reconsider, that's better than them bulling you around or hitting you on the inside (Martinez Vs. Chavez)

[illmaticfighter]

its all about who u r fighting imo some guys want a guy close so clinching plays right into there hands imo if martinez trys to clinch jr he couldve ran into something even worse.

amir khan is the worst at knowing when to clinch i.e garcia he tried to fight garcia from the outside when he was hurt. he kept pushing him off instead of holding tying him pushing him on the ropes.