Will Andre Ward have a better career than Manny Pacquiao?

[IronDanHamza]

what i meant is having accomplished better things than that...like most title defenses in a few weightclasses . for example if ward goes in 3 weightclasess and having like 15 title defenses in each then i would have him above pacquiao..prolly with or without hofer names in there..do you get it yet?

the thing with you is you think you know more about what i said than i....you cant put words in my mouth

That makes sense.

They way you put it across you made it seem like Ward had to move up 8 divisions (Impossible) and 4 of which be Lineal Titles to equal Pacquaio.

I'm in agreement with you though I don't see Ward equalling what Pacquaio has accomplished.

Ward's 28. Look what Pacquaio had done in his career by the time he was 28.

[GoldSugar]

No. Ward has literally no big names or hall of famers to fight or beat besides ancient Hopkins, and he let the Bute fight slip away and give Cobra all the glory.

[puga]

That makes sense.

They way you put it across you made it seem like Ward had to move up 8 divisions (Impossible) and 4 of which be Lineal Titles to equal Pacquaio.

I'm in agreement with you though I don't see Ward equalling what Pacquaio has accomplished.

Ward's 28. Look what Pacquaio had done in his career by the time he was 28.

cool.........

[$coinblatt$]

A fighter doesn't need to jump 8 weight classes and win 4 Lineal's to be considered greater than Pacquaio.

A fighter could stay in 1 or 2 stacked divisons and clean them out and there's a possibility he could be greater than Pacquaio, for example.

this is what I was getting out of his post. I don't look too much into the whole 8 division titles thing, I look at the quality of opponents faced.

[IronDanHamza]

this is what I was getting out of his post. I don't look too much into the whole 8 division titles thing, I like at the quality of opponents faced.

Yeah, me too.

I mean, winning titles in 8/7 divisions is an amazing feat, no question.

But, you don't have the equal that to be considered as great as him.

It's mainly about your resume whether it's across 8 weight classes or 1.

[-Hyperion-]

Oh, and Manny's multiple weigh class titles are more than a bit watered down. Remember, back in the day there were FAR fewer weight divisions. He holds that record partially because a lot of great fighters never had as many classes available to them.

that would make sense.....if it wasnt manny pacquiao youre talking about...

First Flyweight champion to win the Featherweight crown...original weightclasses...add to that lineal titles at 130 and 140...... and alphabet titles at 122, 135, 147(and please, taking too much credit away from him for making Cotto lose a whole extra pound is kinda pitiful...considering this was Manny's 7th weightclass, ill give you fighting at 150 for a 154 belt does wate rdown the belt, even though he did fight a guy who on fight night outweighed him by 17 lbs), 154.....

The guy has fought across 40lbs.....Ward would have to win a Heavyweight belt to hold that a candle, considering the lack of talent around his weightclasses....

[Skittlez]

How the hell do you guys know Ward won't have competition?

He's only 28. Maybe in another 2 years 3 years, all these SMW and LHW Prospects will become the real deal.
Maybe a lot of the young big MW'S will become Elite SMW'S? Who knows.

[The Tase]

I think it depends on the competition which Ward has available to him. He needs to beat some HOF and some ATG if he can. No way will he have 5 loses like Manny though.

thanks for outing yourself as a floyd stan.

i knew that already but thanks for having the same kind of mentality as floyd and his repugnant fan base.

ray robinson and henry armstrong have tons of losses. check where they are in atg rankings.

& no, ward will not have a better career than pac.

[$tate of Mind]

thanks for outing yourself as a floyd stan.

i knew that already but thanks for having the same kind of mentality as floyd and his repugnant fan base.

ray robinson and henry armstrong have tons of losses. check where they are in atg rankings.

& no, ward will not have a better career than pac.

Yes, I'm a Floyd fan. So what? You're a Pacquiao fan. What relevance does this have to the topic at hand? I dont see Ward finishing his career with 5 loses. However, I just don't think Ward has the necessary level of competition available to him tim surpass Manny at the moment.

[revs1227]

i dont think its possible at his weight the challenges aren't there ,

we are talking ab manny ***in pacquia 8 division champ
ppl fg what he accomplished b4 his last figh ??