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  • Southpawology
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    #11
    WAR Chinooo!!!

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    • daggum
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      #12
      Originally posted by Syf
      People who say Maidana has failed every time he stepped up in class are wrong.

      He beat an undefeated Victor Cayo. Morales still had some in the tank when Maidana fought him, and he beat a tough challenge in Petrov. I had him up against Kotelnik as well. Not to mention, Ortiz, who Mayweather and Canelo both deemed worthy to face.

      Maidana lost to Khan because Khan moved the whole fight and boxed from the outside, and was protected on the inside by the Ref. 1 hand free and still broken up every time. Khan was much more cautious against Maidana than he was against Danny.

      Devon pretty much employed the same tactic as Cayo with better defense.

      Fact of the matter is anyone that has chosen to face this man toe to toe has met an untimely demise. Give this man his due, he is no bum, it makes me sick when so called boxing fans call him that.

      He has dynamite in his fists, a killer right hand, and a mysteriously unreported yet equally devastating body attack.
      and are you going to trust the judgement of a guy who deemed ortiz worthy but not pac? or how about lopez worthy but not trout?

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      • Jack Napier
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        #13
        Khan is the only really big fight he's had
        he didn't fail to step up, but he did lose clearly
        and he had way too much trouble with an ancient Terrible
        Maidana is good for what he is; a crowd pleasing puncher/tough guy
        but he's not really an elite fighter
        he can beat some guys, but any good boxer can take him

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        • JuanRakan
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          Maidana isnt the best "boxer" out there but he can **** with the best, has a really good chin and actually has been looking a bit smarter in the ring since he started training with R garcia. Good guy to have in boxing for sure!

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          • John Barron
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            #15
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            Morales was shot to bits, it clearly showed Maidana is nothing rather than Morales found some of his old magic IMO

            Ortiz has never beaten anybody, a hypejob quitter & Cayo lol

            Cayo getting rated now because he arguably beat Paulie ''Hands of stone'' Malignaggi.


            I don't want to nitpick but I feel you're clutching at straws trying to convince yourself really that his resume is better than it is.
            when did this happen? paulie fought a mexican dude named cano.

            on point as always, syf. also, i don't think maidana trained as much as he should've for the morales fight. he looked dead tired by round 3. same with corley. he was super confident of getting an early knockout in both fights. kotelnik shelled up every round and still got his face busted. it was a bull**** gift in my eyes.

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            • Syf
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              #16
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              Morales was shot to bits, it clearly showed Maidana is nothing rather than Morales found some of his old magic IMO

              Ortiz has never beaten anybody, a hypejob quitter & Cayo lol

              Cayo getting rated now because he arguably beat Paulie ''Hands of stone'' Malignaggi.


              I don't want to nitpick but I feel you're clutching at straws trying to convince yourself really that his resume is better than it is.
              Nah. I have been a fan of his since the Kotelnik fight, and I have gone back several times and watched his whole career.

              Maidana took Ortiz's soul. Quit or not, Ortiz was on his way to being ko'd the natural way. He was eating way too many right hands towards the end and it was actually a body shot that made Ortiz quit. Maidan has ended many of his contests by body shot. Ended things with Cayo as well that way. But I find it amusing how some people downplay the Ortiz win. If Floyd got credit for Ortiz, Maidana should get twice as much credit for getting him first and breaking him in half.

              You got Cayo mixed with Cano. Cayo was an undefeated unorthodox fighter trained by Sergio's trainer with Sergio as a second in the corner.
              Originally posted by MR. LARRYX
              No he didnt if he was even 50 percent of his old self he would have beaten Maidiana...dude has been done and hasnt looked good at all since the 2nd Manny fight
              Morales still gave Danny a harder time of it in their first fight and beat Cano who went on to floor Paulie. If Morales was 50 percent against Maidana then he was 5 percent the second time against Danny.

              Originally posted by dan_cov
              He has a few ''good'' wins but nothing great.

              He went life and death with an 84yr old Chop Chop Corley but I suppose Corley had some left in the tank because he beat Paul McCluskey lol
              Ortiz was a great win. Arguably others but definitely Ortiz.

              Originally posted by PBP
              So when people fight ****** against him they lose. lol

              Maidana is nothing more than a limited brawler with a good chin and decent power if your standing right in front of him and trading.
              No if anyone tries to trade with him they will fall. And boxers, such as Cayo, can be caught too.

              Also he's a brawler but he's also a KO artist. You have brawlers running around with a 40 to 50 percent KO ratio. Chino's is well over 80. You are not giving him enough credit.
              Last edited by Syf; 12-17-2012, 04:24 PM.

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              • Syf
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                #17
                Originally posted by Body Movin'
                on point as always, syf. also, i don't think maidana trained as much as he should've for the morales fight. he looked dead tired by round 3. same with corley. he was super confident of getting an early knockout in both fights. kotelnik shelled up every round and still got his face busted. it was a bull**** gift in my eyes.
                Good point. Maidana seemed uncomfortable moving up in weight at first as well.

                It stuns me when people do not see Maidana's value to boxing, and his potential to be p4p rated, under the right circumstances.

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                • Syf
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Jack Napier
                  Khan is the only really big fight he's had
                  he didn't fail to step up, but he did lose clearly
                  and he had way too much trouble with an ancient Terrible
                  Maidana is good for what he is; a crowd pleasing puncher/tough guy
                  but he's not really an elite fighter
                  he can beat some guys, but any good boxer can take him
                  nah he can knock any guy out on a good day.

                  Originally posted by JuanRakan
                  Maidana isnt the best "boxer" out there but he can **** with the best, has a really good chin and actually has been looking a bit smarter in the ring since he started training with R garcia. Good guy to have in boxing for sure!
                  Yeah he been using his jab more, and threw in a little more shake and bake. But trust me, as someone who's watched every single match of his. He always had these tools, this "new Maidana" is more of a reemergence of his old form than anything else, though I do give Garcia some credit for his work with Maidana.

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                  • Redd Foxx
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                    Maidana is showing some improved technique recently along with his usual aggressive style.

                    I'm thinking Maidana is competitive against anyone at 140 right now.
                    No, he's fighting cans (and almost lost to one of them) and looking better only because the competition is low. I don't mean to bash the man himself, I'm just sick of the b.s. his fans spew.

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                    • Da Machine
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Slightly Dazed
                      No, he's fighting cans (and almost lost to one of them) and looking better only because the competition is low. I don't mean to bash the man himself, I'm just sick of the b.s. his fans spew.
                      What bum did he almost lose to? Karass? Lol. Right...

                      Maidana is a good fighter. It's mostly people in love with Mayweather that hate him. They can't stand seeing guys with crude skills have some success.

                      Kotelnik isn't a good fighter? Most everyone who has seen that fight has Maidana winning, he almost beat a cautious Khan, and lost to Devon "im going to hug you and get away with it all night" Alexander.

                      Will he ever be up there in the league of Cotto, Mayweather, Pac? No chance, but he is a good fighter that will give anyone trouble. Can't believe so many people hate on a guy like him.

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