Can we all agree, Lucas Matthysse should be undefeated?

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  • THE REED
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    #81
    I need to watch the Alexander fight again.. as much as I god damn loathe watching him.

    Mr. pull his punches back before they even land.

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #82
      Originally posted by Tom Cruise
      I just watched Judah Matthysse again and im not sure i have it as close as people keep saying. He won more of the first 5-6 rounds than i thought he did, and dominated the second half of the fight winning most of the rounds and getting the KD.

      Maybe i score body punches higher than most? i dunno but thats what i saw though...

      Also the commentary was hilariously bad, they barely even noticed Lucas battering him to the body until they saw the compubox stat. Every time Zab threw a punch they went crazy, but everytime Matthysse did they just carried on talking about something else.
      I count body punches(more then most)and I still had Judah winning by a rd...Matt's just was not bizzy enough imo...He let rds slip away,same goes for the Alexander fight..Which I thought was closer then people make it seem..

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      • Null
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        #83
        I might agree with you. Might. I need to see some evidence first.

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        • sicko
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          #84
          Big fan of Matthysse, he was robbed against Alexander FOR SURE! The Zab fight though I thought Zab out-boxed him early then Matthysse made it a close fight towards the end but Zab barely held on I thought or at best they could have called it Draw so I don't consider that "ROBBERY"

          Robbery is Richard Abril vs Brandon Rios or Erislandy Lara vs Paul Williams...people scream Robbery even for close fights
          Last edited by sicko; 12-18-2012, 12:48 PM.

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          • Tom Cruise
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            #85
            Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
            I count body punches(more then most)and I still had Judah winning by a rd...Matt's just was not bizzy enough imo...He let rds slip away,same goes for the Alexander fight..Which I thought was closer then people make it seem..
            Yeah i saw it close the first time, except with a close Matt win.

            Maybe im in a pro Lucas mood today or summat.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #86
              Originally posted by !! Shawn
              Can we all agree that Lucas Matthysse should be undefeated?

              He absolutely beat the brakes off both Judah and Alexander.
              I disagree that he beat zab.

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              • Pacdbest
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                #87
                Originally posted by !! Shawn
                Can we all agree that Lucas Matthysse should be undefeated?

                He absolutely beat the brakes off both Judah and Alexander.
                Yes!! He got robbed twice!!!

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                • Danny Gunz
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by 4Corners
                  Judah was a close fight.

                  I find it funny people think Matthysse will steam roll anyone at 140, when the two best fighters he faced, Judah and Alexander......he didn't steam roll and kill either of them.

                  But all you hear on here is how Matthysse will slaughter anyone and everyone, and beat the s**t out of god himself.

                  Seriously, Matthysse went from being underrated to a bit overrated.
                  This........

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                  • John Barron
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by SpeedKillz
                    lol i love it when people get exposed like that. someone clearly didn't watch the fight lol. 8 rounds to 4 in a 10 rounder, too too funny...
                    Originally posted by SpeedKillz
                    devon beat lucas. zab fight can be argued imo, but devon clearly outboxed him with his atrocious and horrible style.

                    in any case, lucas is a beast and he needs to get bigger fights. i dont see him as underrated, i see him as exactly where he is
                    lol did YOU watch the fight? i don't think devon even landed one meaningful punch in that entire fight. all he did was circle away from lucas after he got his punk ass knocked down. he was getting battered near the end of the fight. crazy that you could comfortably say that. the dude won like 2 rounds point blank. you couldn't really say the rounds were close and you couldn't pick a winner, it wasn't that type of fight. devon was clearly beat.

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                    • BafanaBafana
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                      I count body punches(more then most)and I still had Judah winning by a rd...Matt's just was not bizzy enough imo...He let rds slip away,same goes for the Alexander fight..Which I thought was closer then people make it seem..
                      I haven't seen either fight in a while, but I remember having Matthysse winning both times. Just looking at the compubox numbers Matthysse both outlanded and out-threw both Judah and Alexander:

                      Matthysse v. Judah (Lucas more than doubled Judah's power punches)


                      Matthysse v. Alexander
                      Lucas Matthysse was busier, landed more punches in the fight and the harder punches. Devon Alexander was down in the fourth, but still managed to secure a ten round split decision victory. As Max Kellerman would ask, "who would you rather have been be in this fight?" And the answer is simple - Matthysse.


                      You also have to take into account the knockdown in both fights and the fact that Matthysse hits a lot harder than either guy. Regardless, I would have to rewatch both fights again to really assess how the rounds played out.

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