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  • TRTboy
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    #81
    Originally posted by Angry Cuban
    You seen that cuz he is not fighting the best in the division..instead he is fighting arce..of course you won't see anybody beating hin soon..lol...rigo will school him..and knock him up..
    Who has rigo beat?

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      #82
      Originally posted by -Kev-
      Dude, don't be ******. You know exactly what I mean. The guy can go up to 147 pounds and still not headline a PPV. You know the tone i'm using "Donaire can go up to 140" in. There's no need to get technical, you are smarter than that.

      I can say Donaire can go up to 154 and still not a PPV attraction, you know exactly what I mean. Don't act ******, but if you're not acting, then i'll let you slide.
      ****** thing to say since you have no way of knowing that. If Donaire was bigger he would automatically be more popular since the higher weight classes are more closely followed. If for example donaire had the body of a welterweight he wouldn't be fighting Arce, Nishioka, etc., he would be fighting guys like Berto, Bradley, etc. etc. etc. But again this is some weird point to make since it's impossible to know.

      What is known is the smaller weight classes historically are not that popular, and that is proven by the fact HBO has never had a PPV headlined by a 122 pounder or smaller.

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      • Angry Cuban
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        #83
        Originally posted by THE ИATAS
        Again, Nioshika was #1 in the division.

        Donaire would be favored easily against Mares or Rigo.

        And how can Rigo be considered a step up when his best opponent to date is Ramos? So you rank Rigo so highly based on what, all of the top opposition he's faced? Double standards.

        Of course Canelo could fight Victor Ortiz and it would be a massive step up for him considering he's fought no one of note yet despite being a pro for 7 years.
        .you said that you're not hating in the guy but all that I see is plain hate if not how you explain this..I take a look at boxing records and no fighter had better 11 first opposition than Rigo...look the ones that your idol fought:

        Jose lazaro 1-3-1
        Rosendo sanches 2-1 "he lose to this dude"
        Saul santoyo debut
        Jose luis torres 0-4
        Noel alma debut
        Kaichon sor vorapin 4-5
        Mark sales 7-16-2
        Jorge lopez 2-6-1
        Ricardo barrera 16-4-1
        Gilberto bolaņos 21-8-1
        Paulino villalobos 25-28-2

        TOTAL 78-75-8

        Look Rigo's opponents

        Juan Noriega 3-2-0
        Robert guillen 4-2-3
        Giovanni andrade 59-11-0
        Lante addy 8-4-1
        Adolfo landeros 20-11-1
        Jose angel beranza 33-18-2
        Ricardo cordoba 37-2-2
        Willie casey 11-0-0
        Rico ramos 20-0-0
        Teon kennedy 17-1-2
        Robert marroquin 22-1-0

        TOTAL 234- 53-11

        That include two top 10 @ 122 and four top 20 @ 122

        My friend I don't wanna sound like a fan boy..just records...And over that he is the undefeated WBA champion of the world..he floored every single of his opponents..and he is maybe the best amateur boxer of all times with more than 400 wins with nearly 200 kos ..two times Olympic gold medallist..doesn't get better than this my friend..

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          #84
          Originally posted by 4Corners
          Rigondeaux deserves to fight him every bit as much as Vazquez and Arce did.
          I would say Rigondeaux or Mares most certainly deserve a shot next.

          As for Vazquez remember that was Donaires first fight in the division. Most of the time when a guy moves up in weight you don't automatically fight the #1 guy in the division. For example when Floyd moved from 140 to 147 he fought Sharmba Mitchell. When Pac moved from 130 to 135 he fought Diaz.

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          • 4Corners
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            #85
            Who'd Vazquez and Arce beaten at 122, or Mathebula????

            Vazquez had never beaten a Top 10 SBW, Arce had only beaten Vazquez, Mathebula had beaten Ndlovu and had an arguable close fight with Caballero.

            Rigondeaux has beaten Cordoba and Ramos, both were top 10 at the time. He's every bit as deserving as anyone Donaire has fought lately.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Angry Cuban
              You seen that cuz he is not fighting the best in the division..instead he is fighting arce..of course you won't see anybody beating hin soon..lol...rigo will school him..and knock him up..
              Do you really think Rigo is going to school Donaire?

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              • TRTboy
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                #87
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                Let me put it like this for Top Rank ****** Boy, and Natas the TR attorney.

                140-154 is where all the big names are. Donaire can go up there and still not be considered for an HBO PPV headline. Not that he can go up there next year, or should be up there. Calling me dumb. Lol.
                And how would you know this gayboy?? If donaire was actually bigger he would be a bigger star right now. People just don't pay that much attention to anything lower than 126.
                Last edited by TRTboy; 12-16-2012, 04:11 PM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by THE ИATAS
                  I would say Rigondeaux or Mares most certainly deserve a shot next. As for Vazquez remember that was Donaires first fight in the division. Most of the time when a guy moves up in weight you don't automatically fight the #1 guy in the division. For example when Floyd moved from 140 to 147 he fought Sharmba Mitchell. When Pac moved from 130 to 135 he fought Diaz.
                  Mares deserves the shot at Donaire so much more than Rigo its not even close. Because Bob doesnt want to co-promote we will see Rigo Donaire 1st.

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                  • Angry Cuban
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by THE ИATAS
                    ****** thing to say since you have no way of knowing that. If Donaire was bigger he would automatically be more popular since the higher weight classes are more closely followed. If for example donaire had the body of a welterweight he wouldn't be fighting Arce, Nishioka, etc., he would be fighting guys like Berto, Bradley, etc. etc. etc. But again this is some weird point to make since it's impossible to know.

                    What is known is the smaller weight classes historically are not that popular, and that is proven by the fact HBO has never had a PPV headlined by a 122 pounder or smaller.
                    Bro..forget about that..it is ****** to talk about fame .ppv #and shhit like that..we the fans should care for everybody have the same opportunities and the best fight the best..doesn't matter ppv #..

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Angry Cuban
                      .you said that you're not hating in the guy but all that I see is plain hate if not how you explain this..I take a look at boxing records and no fighter had better 11 first opposition than Rigo...look the ones that your idol fought:
                      See, this is how I know you're just being emotional and being a die hard Cuban fan by making little cute comments like this. Donaire ain't my favorite fighter by a long shot (see avatar). I'm a huge fan of Cuban fighters in general, Gamboa, Rigondeaux, Lara, etc. I was rocking a Rigondeaux avatar when he first defected from Cuba and before he even had his first pro fight. I was rocking animated gifs of Rigondeaux KO's that I personally made after each of his KO victories early in his career (beautiful body shots).

                      So keep that nonsense about being a fan or a fighter being someones idol out of this discussion.

                      Jose lazaro 1-3-1
                      Rosendo sanches 2-1 "he lose to this dude"
                      Saul santoyo debut
                      Jose luis torres 0-4
                      Noel alma debut
                      Kaichon sor vorapin 4-5
                      Mark sales 7-16-2
                      Jorge lopez 2-6-1
                      Ricardo barrera 16-4-1
                      Gilberto bolaņos 21-8-1
                      Paulino villalobos 25-28-2

                      TOTAL 78-75-8

                      Look Rigo's opponents

                      Juan Noriega 3-2-0
                      Robert guillen 4-2-3
                      Giovanni andrade 59-11-0
                      Lante addy 8-4-1
                      Adolfo landeros 20-11-1
                      Jose angel beranza 33-18-2
                      Ricardo cordoba 37-2-2
                      Willie casey 11-0-0
                      Rico ramos 20-0-0
                      Teon kennedy 17-1-2
                      Robert marroquin 22-1-0

                      TOTAL 234- 53-11
                      And this means what? Very little. Quite obviously with Rigondeaux becoming pro at a late age he needed to speed things up in a hurry. Winning a title in his 7th fight was amazing. Again, I love Rigondeaux. He's awesome.


                      My friend I don't wanna sound like a fan boy..just records...And over that he is the undefeated WBA champion of the world..he floored every single of his opponents..and he is maybe the best amateur boxer of all times with more than 400 wins with nearly 200 kos ..two times Olympic gold medallist..doesn't get better than this my friend..
                      Yes and he and Donaire will fight next year. Why do think Rigo was supposed to be on the undercard last night?

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