Zab Judah Vs Antonio Margarito

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I'm not calling Corley a puncher. And the fact that Mayweather was hurt several times against Corley, only reinforces what I believe will happen when he faces Judah.


Yes, Judah did whoop Corley. He ruined him, took his title after being out of the ring for 6 months, and a year prior to that fight. Talk about ring rust. Corley never hurt Judah once.

So basically you are saying that Judah has to face a puncher before the questions revolving around the chin debate are answered?

1) Thank yo for not calling Corely a puncher-you made the right choice-so does that also mean that Zab has not been in with a puncher post Zoo or for that matter a fighter that poses real danger?

2)Mayweather was hurt against Corely but several times? Define several kind sir? Are we exaggerating a tad bit?

3)Judah ruined Corely...as I recall Corely got the nod on one of the cards and when I think of a fighter being ruined I tend to think of guys like Robert Quiriga or Melderick Taylor...I dont tend to think of Demarcus Corely and Zab Judah's shadowboxing contest, ruined Corely...wow.

In closing what Im taking about interms of Zab facing a puncher is simple, I want to see how he reacts to a good crack on the jaw (the first time he took a good crack he didnt react to well), your obviously a big Zab fan which is great but tell me something you are not the slightest bit curious to see how your boy reacts when he gets tagged good?

Thats the point Im trying to get across, Zab can be fast and have all the power in the world but if his whiskers dont worrk then he wont be the fighter that many think and hope he will be, you at the very least can agree with this right?

[LondonRingRules]

Put it this way: King will be happy to have Zabby face Mayweather. Zabby has a decent chance to knock off the p4p best.

King will never let Zabby face Margarito. Too, big, strong, too much iron and too much risk for little reward. Margarito dishes out the kind of beatings that ruin fighters.

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1) Thank yo for not calling Corely a puncher-you made the right choice-so does that also mean that Zab has not been in with a puncher post Zoo or for that matter a fighter that poses real danger?

He fought punchers before he fought Tszyu. Plus, a fighter is in danger every time he steps in the ring.

2)Mayweather was hurt against Corely but several times? Define several kind sir? Are we exaggerating a tad bit?

Once in round 3, once in round 4

3)Judah ruined Corely...as I recall Corely got the nod on one of the cards and when I think of a fighter being ruined I tend to think of guys like Robert Quiriga or Melderick Taylor...I dont tend to think of Demarcus Corely and Zab Judah's shadowboxing contest, ruined Corely...wow.

After what Zab did with the Nady situation do you REALLY think he had the judges favor going into the Corley fight, in Nevada? Think about it and get back to me.

In closing what Im taking about interms of Zab facing a puncher is simple, I want to see how he reacts to a good crack on the jaw (the first time he took a good crack he didnt react to well), your obviously a big Zab fan which is great but tell me something you are not the slightest bit curious to see how your boy reacts when he gets tagged good?

That's what I've been trying to relay to you. Zab has taken good shots before he even fought tszyu. The glass chin argument is something that boxer writers have blown out of proportion. He's been hit harder, and he weathered it. Also, nobody mentions the fact that Judah's head bounced off of the canvas too. What fighters have you seen get knocked down, having their heads crash into the canvas, and then get up? Not many. Judah's own immaturity cost him the fight with Tszyu.

Thats the point Im trying to get across, Zab can be fast and have all the power in the world but if his whiskers dont worrk then he wont be the fighter that many think and hope he will be, you at the very least can agree with this right?

Nope. Two words.... Tommy Hearns.

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He fought punchers before he fought Tszyu. Plus, a fighter is in danger every time he steps in the ring.



Once in round 3, once in round 4



After what Zab did with the Nady situation do you REALLY think he had the judges favor going into the Corley fight, in Nevada? Think about it and get back to me.



That's what I've been trying to relay to you. Zab has taken good shots before he even fought tszyu. The glass chin argument is something that boxer writers have blown out of proportion. He's been hit harder, and he weathered it. Also, nobody mentions the fact that Judah's head bounced off of the canvas too. What fighters have you seen get knocked down, having their heads crash into the canvas, and then get up? Not many. Judah's own immaturity cost him the fight with Tszyu.



Nope. Two words.... Tommy Hearns.

It is not time to compare Zab with Tommy Hearns, Zab is a powerful fighter no doubt but Hearns is in another league...again your right Zab is king.

I bet your a big Luis Collazo fan too!

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Put it this way: King will be happy to have Zabby face Mayweather. Zabby has a decent chance to knock off the p4p best.

King will never let Zabby face Margarito. Too, big, strong, too much iron and too much risk for little reward. Margarito dishes out the kind of beatings that ruin fighters.

http://www.maxboxing.com/Villasenor/...enor121805.asp

Margarito headlines Pay-Per-View Show on February 18th; Judah or Mayweather Hopefully to Follow
Photo and Article by German Villasenor (December 18, 2005)


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After speaking to Top Rank and finalizing certain details, Sergio Diaz Jr. - who manages Antonio Margarito, the WBO welterweight champion and number one or two (depending on whom you ask) welterweight in the world - has confirmed that his charge will defend his crown against Manuel ''*******'' Gomez in the featured fight on the Top Rank promoted "Real Warriors" Pay-Per-View card on Saturday, February 18th at the Aladdin Resort and Casino, in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Margarito - Gomez was a fight originally scheduled as the co-feature to the Vitali Klitschko - Hasim Rahman bout, but that show fell apart after Klitschko pulled out due to an injury and subsequently retired from the sport.


''We have been working hard to get Margarito back in the ring, seeing how all of the fighters we have targeted are avoiding him - with Mosley fighting Vargas, Mayorga and De La Hoya now fighting each other, and Mayweather not wanting anything to do with Tony," said Diaz. "But we managed to land the main event on February 18th.''

''Getting past Gomez is imperative," continued Diaz, "as Top Rank has told us a deal has been reached with Don King for Tony to fight for the rest of the welterweight titles in a fight or two down the line.''

Who Margarito will fight for the titles is up in the air, as Judah is penciled in to face the rugged Carlos Baldomir in the Theatre at Madison Square Garden in New York on January 7, 2006.

Should Judah win as expected, the Brooklynite hopes his next fight will be a superfight between himself and Floyd Mayweather Jr., with the winner supposedly to take on Margarito.

''We will do everything we can to secure our long awaited shot at either of them (Judah / Mayweather)," said Diaz. "We cannot overlook Gomez, as he is a dangerous foe, but once we hold all of the titles, they (the big names) will have to come to us. I've said it before and I'll continue to say it - they can run, but not forever.''

''Our opportunity could finally arise in the spring or summer,'' he concluded.

The rest of the card on February 18th will feature WBC's light flyweight champion Brian ''The Hawaiian Punch'' Viloria vs former strawweight champion Jose Antonio Aguirre, the undefeated and long reigning WBO minimumweight weight champion Ivan Calderon, and the very popular Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

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It is not time to compare Zab with Tommy Hearns, Zab is a powerful fighter no doubt but Hearns is in another league...again your right Zab is king.

I bet your a big Luis Collazo fan too!

You said 'Zab can be fast and have all the power in the world but if his whiskers dont worrk then he wont be the fighter that many think and hope he will be, you at the very least can agree with this right?'

And I mentioned Tommy Hearns because his whiskers weren't sturdy at all, and he became a legend and 5 division champ.

[masterdirector]

that's ridiculous. someone said Judah will fight the #1 pound for pound fighter but not Margarito, an upgraded Mayorga. That's laughable.

Judah would box circles around Margarito. hell he'd box all the geometric shapes around Margarito. And I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Judah took Margarito out. Margarito throws very wide, sloppy punches.

It'll be Arum that won't chance Margarito. He won't want two fighters of his losing to Judah so close to each other. And after Morales lost to Raheem, you really think Arum would chance putting a far less talented mexican against a more talented/powerful slick southpaw? I don't.

Watch, Margarito will try moving up to 154 after his next match. Cause Judah or Mayweather would easily beat him. And no chance he'll fight Mosley b/c Arum won't deal with DLH (Mosley's promoter). So get ready for the Margarito marks to suddenly say Alex Garcia is the 2nd best 154 lb fighter.

[LondonRingRules]

=======that's ridiculous. someone said Judah will fight the #1 pound for pound fighter but not Margarito, an upgraded Mayorga. That's laughable====================

** What, is this the upgraded Boozo flappin' the breeze, tryin' to talk up some smack to shoot? Mayorga ain't got two cents for brains. He makes Zabby look like a brain surgeon.

Margarito is a seriously disciplined fighter with serious beatdown power, not some down and out clown stuck on a DonKing stick who's so damn cheap he has to **** whores to make change down at the police station.

[DiegoFuego]

What has Margarito ever done to make you think he could hang with Judah or are you all just Mexicans? Margarito beat up Cintron and Lewis, one of whom was untested and the other who already got destroyed by Mayorga. I'm not saying Margarito isn't a tough cookie from what I've seen, but the dude is never on TV, which makes me wonder how any of you have seen more than 4 of his fights and he's never looked amazing against real good opposition.

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If Zab loses focus "AT ALL" he loses by knock out.

A.M. can really hurt Judah, but I know Margarito has a good beard. I'm not sure if Judah can't do the same damage on A.M.

If I'm placing money down, I like Margarito.

Fair observation but I think Judah wins by UD if I had to bet $$$.