Do you think a prime Margarito would have really beaten Floyd?

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  • UTEP
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    #51
    Originally posted by 4Corners
    Williams lost to Quintana right after Floyd beat Hatton. Clottey was never really even mentioned as a Floyd opponent in serious conversations. Mosley, Floyd had already tried to fight him for several years, and then he lost to Cotto. Mosley beat Margarito, who'd just beaten Cotto, and Floyd fought Mosley.

    I can't fault Floyd for Cotto, when we review everything else that happened before and since. Floyd had wanted to fight Cotto when both were TR, and after Floyd mopped up Gatti, Cotto and TR didn't seem keen on making that fight. Arum even said he couldn't get Floyd the right money for Margarito, Oscar, and Cotto, even though he got it away to fight other top fighters. Cotto leaves TR and the fight is made, coincidence.....I don't think so.

    Yea Arum and Cotto didn't want any of Floyd at 140.

    but it would have been nice if Floyd's name was in the mix with the fighter's I bolded instead of taking a 2 year vacation

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      #52
      Originally posted by 4Corners
      No.....a fighter with good movement could easily handle Margarito. Floyd used a lot of movement in 2006. Floyd maintained he had no problem fighting Margarito, if Arum could get him the Oscar and Cotto fights for the money he wanted. Arum said he didn't want to give Floyd that kind of money, so Floyd instead fought Baldomir (some MANY were claiming Floyd was ducking as well at the time), De La Hoya (the fight everyone wanted), and Hatton (another person people thought Floyd would duck) for the exact same amount of money. I think it has more to do with Arum and Floyd not being able to do business together than anything.

      But Floyd may not have been focusing on Margarito, because he was trying to fight Mosley and Oscar at the time.
      Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA
      Marg is too slow.

      If you think that Margarito couldn't defeat anyone with decent speed then he should have lost to Sergio Martinez who had a lot of speed/movement but Margarito caught up to him.

      And it had little to do with money. There was an interview out there that Floyd said, something like "That is why I didn't fight Margarito, I knew there was something wrong about him"
      Last edited by ADP02; 12-15-2012, 02:35 AM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by liraj
        Yea Arum and Cotto didn't want any of Floyd at 140.

        but it would have been nice if Floyd's name was in the mix with the fighter's I bolded instead of taking a 2 year vacation
        Yup, while all the top dudes were out there killing each other Floyd went on....vacation.

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          #54
          At that point nah, even though Mayweather was a small WW at that time he would have pot-shot and move around a lot to avoid getting in exchanges, Margarito throws a lot but he was too open and wide to be able to do damage against anyone that gets on their toes, if Rito knows how to cut off the ring then I would have giving him a better chance.

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            #55
            Lmfao there is nothing in floyds arsenal to stop margarito.

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              #56
              Originally posted by ADP02
              If you think that Margarito couldn't defeat anyone with decent speed then he should have lost to Sergio Martinez who had a lot of speed/movement but Margarito caught up to him.

              And it had little to do with money. There was an interview out there that Floyd said, something like "That is why I didn't fight Margarito, I knew there was something wrong about him"
              Martinez was a novice when he fought Rito, no amateur background, jump into boxing in his mid twenties etc, he doesn't even know how to clinch, so Martinez does not bring any experience to the table apart from running.

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                #57
                Who knows? The fight conveniently didn't take place, same with Pacquiao.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by I'm so sorry
                  Yup, while all the top dudes were out there killing each other Floyd went on....vacation.

                  Exactly! The welterweight division had not been that stacked in 25 years!

                  This is why Floyd doesn't get the respect he deserves.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    Martinez was a novice when he fought Rito, no amateur background, jump into boxing in his mid twenties etc, he doesn't even know how to clinch, so Martinez does not bring any experience to the table apart from running.

                    ..... but these guys are saying that if you get a guy with good movement, Margarito would be too slow and would lose ..... in that fight, Sergio was like running in a track meet .... lol!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BIG GUNZ
                      I know a lot of people bring up Floyd ducking Margarito, but without being biased do you really think Margarito would have won?
                      Yes it would have been Castillo Floyd again but with more intensity and if Margarito would have had his cast wraps Floyd would have been a ruined fighter like Cotto

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