Floyd Mayweather still on top after Mannys rise and Fall

[$tate of Mind]

This is a brilliant post, sums up my feelings on the whole manny floyd thing. The concept of the best fighters fighting the best fighters and the example you give(srl,duran,hagler, hearns) is something that seems to be completely lost on Mayweather fans or in the more extreme cases of idiocy, they even attempt to tear down these guys achievements next to floyds. Sad times.

Are you saying that Manny has fought all the best fighters while Floyd hasn't?

[The Big Dunn]

come on dunn. its not happening. even if it does, it doesnt have the same momentum as before. it'd be sort of like floyd vs cotto in a way. wanted to see it years ago, but now? not so much.

if you don't want to see it fine. I agree to an extent about momentum. Unfortunately, thats the age we are in. Duran quit against SRL, it didn't make duran/hearns or duran/hagler any less, etc. etc. A loss to a great fighter historically doesn't diminish another great fighter.

In this day and age though, maybe so.

[jaestix1]

yeah and cotto vs pac was a pick em fight at the time.

bs.....pac was the favorite.

[IMDAZED]

SRL waited 2 years to fight Hearns and fought duran while the Hearns fight gained more heat, steam, whatever you want to call it. But that is ok so long as he fought him. Now floyd does something similiar and its a huge problem. GTFO!!

Sugar Ray Leonard took vacations too.

[$tate of Mind]

yeah and cotto vs pac was a pick em fight at the time.

Pacquiao fought Cotto because he was an easy match up at the time. If Cotto doesn't get demolished by Margarito and struggle against Clottey there's no way in hell that Manny fights him. It's what Pacquiao has been doing lately, with the exception of Bradlley he fights guys when they seem to be most vulnerable.

[IMDAZED]

Are you saying that Manny has fought all the best fighters while Floyd hasn't?

If they held Manny up to the same mirror, he'd fail terribly. Clottey? Margarito? Mosley? Losses to Bradley and Marquez? Basura.

[shade darkar]

if you don't want to see it fine. I agree to an extent about momentum. Unfortunately, thats the age we are in. Duran quit against SRL, it didn't make duran/hearns or duran/hagler any less, etc. etc. A loss to a great fighter historically doesn't diminish another great fighter.

In this day and age though, maybe so.

i agree it doesnt diminish a fighter. but what i am saying is you know what will happen if they do fight. floyd cant win. if floyd beats him they will just say he waited till somebody else beat him before he would fight him, he didnt fight him when he was at his best etc etc.

its just typical of certain top boxers in this day and age tho, bickering like a pair of schoolgirls and it has cost them both a career defining fight and a ton of wonga.

[shade darkar]

bs.....pac was the favorite.

it was still a pick em fight. pac wasnt a massive fav.

[shade darkar]

Pacquiao fought Cotto because he was an easy match up at the time. If Cotto doesn't get demolished by Margarito and struggle against Clottey there's no way in hell that Manny fights him. It's what Pacquiao has been doing lately, with the exception of Bradlley he fights guys when they seem to be most vulnerable.

im not arsed, it was still a pick em fight. pac had just sparked hatton and cotto was the natural 147 fighter and the wbo champ at the time. plenty of people were picking cotto to win that fight.

[$tate of Mind]

If they held Manny up to the same mirror, he'd fail terribly. Clottey? Margarito? Mosley? Losses to Bradley and Marquez? Basura.

This is what baffles me. The only differences between Manny and Floyd is that Manny fights more, while Floyd fights guys in a better state. If Floyd had did what Manny has done since '08 that amount of criticism he'd be recieving would be through the roof.