DO ANY of you know what an OVERHAND RIGHT IS?

[Japanese Boxing]

i know what an overhand right is and i never felt its an under appreciated punch, if anything its over apprciated. its certainly overused, a right hook, now thats an under used and under appreciated punch.

as for the mma comment i dont really know how to even adress that. chuck liddell threw literally the worst overhand right ever, fck an overhand it was the worst of any punch. you say fans and fighters consider it a wild punch that leaves you open than you namedrop the fighter who threw the single wildest overhand right ever and left himself wide open each and every time.

as for what an overhand is its what it sounds like, a punch looped over your opnents hand. a hook goes around the guard, a straight goes down the pipe and an overhand comes over the top. a straight can also land over the top if the oponent is holding his hand really low, its still a straight punch though.

when throwing an overhand you elevate the elbow a bit, the punch should come down on the oponent even if hes taller than you. the key is to keep it short, unlike liddell and most mixed martial artists. seriously man, when i explain to ppl how boxing really isnt a part of mma since they dont have any boxing skills. the way they wing their right hand over the top like bums is one of the first things i point out and liddell is a perfect example.

Chuck is an awful example because he beat the **** out of wrestlers with no hands. He was just a better overall striker and that's why people give him more credit than he probably deserves. In MMA, boxing hasn't been fully adapted or more so hasn't adapted as well as kickboxing has.

[#1Assassin]

It's a more powerfull more dedicated version of a straight right hand... with a sort of looping path... Punch starts further back/down compared with the straight right which is compact..

Maidana & Rios throw them

Rios hit Alvarado with it (got the TKO)
Maidana hit Khan with it (nearly KO'd)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ewJ-WipKA

I don't like it... feels slow wide and telegraphed...

it doesnt have to be more powrful at all, in some cases it is but it depends on the fighter. taller, more long armed fighters usually punc significantly harder when they throw a straight right. hearns is a perfect example of that.

and most if not all fighters have an overhand right in their arsenal, but like any punch there has to be an opening for it. the straight shots are usually easier to throw and always less risky making them the better choice most of the time.

a correctly thrown overhand right isnt slow, wide or telegraphed. maidana sure doesnt throw it correctly though. but it can be a great punch depending on what your oponent is giving you and when correctly executed its lethal. like every other punch basically.

[SplitSecond]

Cross counter doesn't equate to overhand right.

what? a counter cross over the jab isn't an overhand?
you need to clarify

[#1Assassin]

Chuck is an awful example because he beat the **** out of wrestlers with no hands. He was just a better overall striker and that's why people give him more credit than he probably deserves. In MMA, boxing hasn't been fully adapted or more so hasn't adapted as well as kickboxing has.

thats what i always tell ppl, same thing applies to wanderlei.

only fighters in mma whos boxing skills i find respectable are anderson silva, jose aldo, tyrone spong (kind of) and one or two more guys i cant think of at the moment. not gsp or arlovski, they have good fundamentals but are extremely basic and flawed.

[SplitSecond]

i think of it like this, overhand right = higher than usual elbow, lookin to get over jab
straight right = straight from shoulder directly to opponents chin
hayemaker = harder to explain, but a good example in my opinion is martinez's ko punch on williams, it's more of a hook compared to the others

[#1Assassin]

what? a counter cross over the jab isn't an overhand?
you need to clarify

an overhand right is a technique where you loop the right hand over your oponents left in an arching motion. if its thrown straight its a not an overhand, even if it does come over the oponents hand.

so if a fighter throws a lazy jab and you come over it with a straight right its not an overhand, its a straight right over a lazy left jab.

[Fighting_Pride]

punch over the jab?

or right over a straight left if a southpaw

overhand right is punch most used to counter an incoming punch, also useful if the opponent guards the front of the face rather than the side. pacquiao (overhand left southpaw stance) uses this punch a lot, same with marquez and matthysse who are very effective with it

[#1Assassin]

i think of it like this, overhand right = higher than usual elbow, lookin to get over jab
straight right = straight from shoulder directly to opponents chin
hayemaker = harder to explain, but a good example in my opinion is martinez's ko punch on williams, it's more of a hook compared to the others

you arent all wrong about the overhand. i would add that its a bent punch, not straight. a straight punch is just that, straight.

a hayemaker is a wild swing, martinez left hand was anything but a hayemaker. the punch that maidana wobbled khan with was a hayemaker.

a hook is kind of like an overhand in that its a bent punch, not straight. the diffrence is its looped around the left hand as oposed to over the top. the major diffrence in techinque is the elbow should be no higher than the fist, unlike an overhand where the elbow is indeed elevated like you said.

there can be some variations though, tim witherspoon threw a quite unorthodox yet short and highly effective overhand right where his elbow was quite low.

[Jam Jars]

an overhand right is a technique where you loop the right hand over your oponents left in an arching motion. if its thrown straight its a not an overhand, even if it does come over the oponents hand.

so if a fighter throws a lazy jab and you come over it with a straight right its not an overhand, its a straight right over a lazy left jab.

^^^^^^This

[SplitSecond]

you arent all wrong about the overhand. i would add that its a bent punch, not straight. a straight punch is just that, straight.

a hayemaker is a wild swing, martinez left hand was anything but a hayemaker. the punch that maidana wobbled khan with was a hayemaker.

a hook is kind of like an overhand in that its a bent punch, not straight. the diffrence is its looped around the left hand as oposed to over the top. the major diffrence in techinque is the elbow should be no higher than the fist, unlike an overhand where the elbow is indeed elevated like you said.

there can be some variations though, tim witherspoon threw a quite unorthodox yet short and highly effective overhand right where his elbow was quite low.

good info, im no expert on the names of punches that's for sure