Marquez insist on drug testing if he is to fight again.

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  • Ray*
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    #61
    I really would hate to play JMM in a game of chess..... Checkmate!

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    • Fetta
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      #62
      Originally posted by ManUtd626
      So, let me get this straight, if JMM does not have OSDT 24/7/365 he is juicing. If he does agree to the test, he is still juicing because Heredia knows how to beat the test (Catch-22). So for some on this forum JMM is guilty of juicing simply because there is nothing he can do in order to satisfy some people's su****ion.

      Why don't people just take the result of the test that will be revealed as valid given that this is what was agreed to by the commission and the two boxer's camps.

      Last time it was said that Manny was not at his best bc of family, distractions, etc. This time they said he was 100% focused and ready. It seems this is a case of one camp trying to move the goal-posts in order to preemptively make excuses for a fighter that has so much going on in his life that his dedication to boxing has waned.
      No for most on this forum he is guilty because he put Pac to sleep and badly. Memo was caught before so naturally hes always dirty but Nonito who works with the former leader and owner of BALCO, and what seems like head spoke person for VADA (Conte) is clean because Conte went to jail.

      Overall i have always been for better testing and yes tests can be beat but it is harder to beat when USADA or VADA are involved. So for me this just seems like excuses for pac fans especially when Team Pac was the leader in saying NO to tests...repeatedly and for years.

      They werent here when Hatton got crushed in similar fashion, or Cotto getting beat down, or even a huge Marg was getting eye sockets broke, no it took PAc getting demolished for them to start questioning it. Sad!

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      • MikeRo1972
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        #63
        Originally posted by Fetta
        No for most on this forum he is guilty because he put Pac to sleep and badly. Memo was caught before so naturally hes always dirty but Nonito who works with the former leader and owner of BALCO, and what seems like head spoke person for VADA (Conte) is clean because Conte went to jail.

        Overall i have always been for better testing and yes tests can be beat but it is harder to beat when USADA or VADA are involved. So for me this just seems like excuses for pac fans especially when Team Pac was the leader in saying NO to tests...repeatedly and for years.

        They werent here when Hatton got crushed in similar fashion, or Cotto getting beat down, or even a huge Marg was getting eye sockets broke, no it took PAc getting demolished for them to start questioning it. Sad!
        Wrong. VADA tests are difficult to beat. There are protocols in place with USADA to protect the fighter when he fails a USADA test and the ratio USADA uses for some of its test make it easier to pass a USADA test as opposed to a VADA test. Conte has nothing to do with whether or not VADA is better. It's the protocol that GBP has in place with USADA that make those tests worthless. In addition to the ratios they use for testing. Also its a history of Olympic athletes and Armstrong testing clean for years under USADA even though they where dirty. As for the commissions they don't test for the correct PEDs, that's just a sham.

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        • AssasinKing
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          #64
          Thats because his strength and conditioning coach is a pro at passing drug tests even while doping

          (Not saying JMM is doping)

          But people who are having a go at pacquiao...

          Marquez is the one with the professional cheat who has the most knowledge about drug enhancement in the sport of boxing probably

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          • Fetta
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            #65
            Originally posted by MikeRo1972
            Wrong. VADA tests are difficult to beat. There are protocols in place with USADA to protect the fighter when he fails a USADA test and the ratio USADA uses for some of its test make it easier to pass a USADA test as opposed to a VADA test. Conte has nothing to do with whether or not VADA is better. It's the protocol that GBP has in place with USADA that make those tests worthless. In addition to the ratios they use for testing. Also its a history of Olympic athletes and Armstrong testing clean for years under USADA even though they where dirty. As for the commissions they don't test for the correct PEDs, that's just a sham.
            If it makes you feel better than ok. Run with it.

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            • Fetta
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              #66
              Originally posted by AssasinKing
              Thats because his strength and conditioning coach is a pro at passing drug tests even while doping

              (Not saying JMM is doping)

              But people who are having a go at pacquiao...

              Marquez is the one with the professional cheat who has the most knowledge about drug enhancement in the sport of boxing probably
              If it makes you feel better that JMM put Pac to sleep that i thought he was dead than ok. Like the other run with it. He said ok to tests but he will still be dirty in Pac fans eyes.

              Where you all when it was considered cowardly to think this way

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              • Prince_Pugilist
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                #67
                I think Pac will take the tests, some of you are so out dated, he has already said he'd take those tests. Marquez holds the cards and Pac wants revenge. Only thing stopping the fight is if Marquez retires or takes on Mayweather in a rematch.

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                • THE REED
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by MANIAC310
                  bro, all of my posts are solid
                  lol...........

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Fetta
                    And that one fighter happens to be trained by Memo's FORMER BOSS but naturally he cant beat those tests. SMH!
                    Not sure what you're implying but Donaire is the only fighter who subjected himself to OST. He didnt say "oh only if we both do it, and only during training camp". This is why he gets more respect from me then any other fighter who ever call themselves "clean'' and are open to take test. He'

                    Arce wont even be taking these tests but and Donaire is. Apparently all it takes to convince posters that a fighter is clean is for them to say "ill take the test", meanwhile only 1 guy in all of boxing is self imposing these tests ONLY on himself. What a joke. The best way to prove yourself clean is to do real OST on yourself, not claim you're cool with OST and then never actually take it

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                    • Fetta
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Prince_Pugilist
                      I think Pac will take the tests, some of you are so out dated, he has already said he'd take those tests. Marquez holds the cards and Pac wants revenge. Only thing stopping the fight is if Marquez retires or takes on Mayweather in a rematch.
                      I dont remember Pac ever saying he wanted revenge. Did he say that or are you hoping he does?

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