Is there such thing as a Lucky Punch?

[Reloaded]

How can it be lucky , when he never took his eye of Pacs chin , set it up and delivered it with the intentions of taking his head off , lucky punch lol you kids are the most whiny losers since the Hatton fans found a turnbuckle , learn boxing its that simple !!

[EL_cano]

Pacquiao did **** up, i agree 110%, Marquez was lucky in that respect..and what ultimately led to him getting KTFO.




Then you should know that this isnt discrediting anyone....this is arguing the existence of a lucky punch...and if this wasnt considered a lucky punch..then i want to know how it wasnt lucky based on whatever your definition of a lucky punch is, and an example of what you consider a lucky punch...which nobody has yet to do!

Alright I get what your saying. Peace

[Nekronicle]

The way you explain the fight makes it sound like Marquez was doing nothing... It's like no body shots exist... Marquez was landing less but was landing significant body punches. The punch was not "lucky". Marquez didn't bite (take the bait) on the right hand and instead of trying to step away or lean back (which was getting him caught all night because of Pac fainting him out with his movement), he stepped in and he had set himself up to dodge the left while throwing the right. JMM worked on it. As opposed to landing from the outside/mid range after making Pac miss he stepped in like he should have. Pac was landing his left, but he wasn't always getting a freebie, hence him being back up after a lot of his hard shots.

As the say... You don't throw your sunday punch without the hope of landing it. Is there such thing as a lucky punch? Who knows... But this knockout (and the P Will one since they were so damn similar) werent lucky at all. Youre taking a boxer's awareness completely out of the equation because the public doesnt see what the fighters do..

I appreciate a response with an actual analysis/reasoning...but Marquez might as well have not done anything, Pacquaio was countering and out landing him all night, in hindsight it was clear Marquez only planned on looking for a place to put his right.. I dont believe Pacquaio was trying do anything significant with his right, What i saw was that he was feinting and doubling up on the jab looking to set up something with the left...and he saw that Marquez didnt fall for that which is why i believe he didnt try to throw any punch after he rushed in, what i see is that he tried to feint recognized it didnt work, kept moving forward with his guard completely down...he was ****** ..JMM saw this, and threw a textbook overhand right...Marquez didnt do anything to make Pacquaio miss...it was a result of circumstance and Marquez was fortunate it played out exactly like that.

I am not saying it was 100% lucky shot, im saying that luck was definitely a variable in this KO occurring.

[KingKhan1]

uh...how is listing other fights discrediting anything??? I'm using that for comparison purposes and support for why I believe in luck...i explicitly say this isnt a way to discredit JMM.

If your claiming that marquez had luck, does that mean Garcia was lucky against khan?

[White_Knight]

When Cunningham fought Troy Ross, Cunningham threw a punch and his thumb caused a cut near Ross' eye. The ref didn't see the thumb and said the cut was caused by a punch. He then said the cut was too bad to go on and declared Cunningham the winner. Ross was winning the fight up to this point and had even scored a knockdown, if I remember correctly.

If the thumb was truly accidental, then that would be the closest thing I can think of to a lucky punch.

[Nekronicle]

How can it be lucky , when he never took his eye of Pacs chin , set it up and delivered it with the intentions of taking his head off , lucky punch lol you kids are the most whiny losers since the Hatton fans found a turnbuckle , learn boxing its that simple !!

I see it as luck based on what i wrote in the first post....he didnt set anything up! Pacquiao did most of the work that ended with him on the canvas...he went in with his guard completely down, and ran right into a overhand right. Few seconds before that (10 second mark), Marquez tried to land that same punch, and missed wildly....then he got lucky 10 seconds later when Pacquaio ran right into that same punch.

[Nekronicle]

When Cunningham fought Troy Ross, Cunningham threw a punch and his thumb caused a cut near Ross' eye. The ref didn't see the thumb and said the cut was caused by a punch. He then said the cut was too bad to go on and declared Cunningham the winner. Ross was winning the fight up to this point and had even scored a knockdown, if I remember correctly.

If the thumb was truly accidental, then that would be the closest thing I can think of to a lucky punch.

lol, I can appreciate that!

[Nekronicle]

And the hell.... 16 votes for the 3rd option, but nobody down here defining what 'lucky' is except like 2 or 3 people...


Im here trying to learn other perspectives of what they consider luck! Since its so subjective.

[Mike D]

There are "lucky" shots/punches in boxing...but that is 100% part of the sport. So really when you get down to it, it isn't really lucky at all.

You know how in basketball -- dudes are forced into wild shots when the shot clock is about to expire, and sometimes have to put up an attempt without even clearly seeing the basket? Well these guys practice for years and years, and it's safe to say they have a general idea where the basket is (lol). Just like a boxer has a general idea where the chin/head is when he's throwing a blind shot. Or how about in the NFL when a quarterback is pressured by blitzing linebackers and makes a decision to blindly throw to a spot where he expects (or hopes) one of his receivers will be? Brett Favre is a prime example of taking risks like this. Is it luck? It may appear to be, and yeah luck does play a factor to a degree, but at the end of the day these guys have practiced the art & sport for their entire life.

So in short, no, I don't think there is lucky punches in boxing. When Danny Garcia floored Khan with a completely blind shot, he had a general idea of where Amir's head was. Yeah maybe 7 out of 10 times he misses with that shot, but for the one that does make contact...well you saw what happened to Khan.

[elfag]

lmao because Foreman was landing that same punch in that same round just with less power... wtf.. did you not watch that fight. Foreman was coming back the entire crowd was roaring than BAM the finale.
It wasn't as if Foreman was losing every second of TAHT ROUND than suddenly a wild hay maker with both eyes close.

Garcia over Khan was a lucky punch

that ****** philly ****** rat threw with BOTH HIS EYES CLOSE AND DUMB KHAN WAS KNOCKED THE HELL OUT


****** GARCIA don't even know how to throw punches, I can't wait till Khan dominates his Puta azz hole

This, foreman -moorer was not even close to a lucky punch. That is one of those rumors that people parrot over and over without even have watched the fight recently. It wasnt even a single shot, it was a jab straight right combo and it was done twice in a row, the first one stunned mooorer and the second one put him down. Secondly, foreman landed that same combo in the 8th round and hurt moorer a bit with it as well. Third, moorer was fighting a very bad fight strategically by squaring up with foreman and staying close rather than using movement the entire time. Thats what got him KTFO.

And how can anyone try to call JMM v Pac a lucky punch when JMM is a damn counter puncher and one of the best of the last 25 years. He dropped Pac with the same over hand right earlier in the fight and had success with it all night.

Tarver - Roy I dont even consider a fully lucky punch. Tarver was saying before the fight how you beat speed was to get inside close which he did all first fight and how did he land that counter? It was done close on the inside. So his strategy got him there in the spot to land that counter. It was a once in a life time perfect shot so there may be some luck to it but its not 100 percent luck either. Hed never land something like that from the outside because roy would see it and his reflexes would let him move. In close, roy never seen it coming.