Is there such thing as a Lucky Punch?

[Nekronicle]

luck is a word people give after the occurrence of events which they find to be fortuitous or unfortuitous, and maybe improbable

[UTEP]

"Is there such thing as a Lucky Punch"?


no

[Nekronicle]

finally, a reasonable response..


also, all 40 of you who voted for the 3rd option, i have yet to see an example of what you consider a lucky punch :tsk:

[Nekronicle]

"I never thought that Juan could knock out Pacquiao. Juan is not a [power puncher]. He is a very precise fighter, and hits hard but not violently. He gets you with three shots in a row at the tip of the chin and he hurts you, but not like [what happened with the punch that hit Pacquiao]. What happened was a phenomenon," - Nacho Bernstein

[Light_Speed]

Look at Marquez catching his sparring partner with that same lucky shot :



Goddamn, he must have a 4 leaf clover in his trunks or something...

[prtyboybladeage]

[fitefan]

Look at Marquez catching his sparring partner with that same lucky shot :



Goddamn, he must have a 4 leaf clover in his trunks or something...

i'd stop trying if i were you. it's seems pointless

countless good points go ignored for the sake of furthering his flawed argument. that post you put up previously was gold. hit the nail on the head

[Marvellous1]

The more this thread goes on, the more the agenda of thread starter is revealed. We get it. You're sore that Pacquiao got knocked into unconsciousness, even though he was doing well. You can't accept that Marquez, despite preparing meticulously to land a specific punch, despite saying before the fight he was going for a knock out, despite having fought Pacquiao three times before therefore knowing his habits in the ring, despite being a great counter-pnuncher with timing and technique- actually managed to pull it off. It's clear this whole "lucky punch" thread is a thin veil trying to cover a deep disappointment that Manny Pacquiao suffered a loss in a manner few anticipated.

One thing that any boxing fan knows is that fight patterns, points and punch stats mean nothing when a knockout punch lands. It's the part of the appeal of sport, the savage beauty of boxing. It's something Manny Pacquiao himself seems to understand better than the thread starter. Looking at the footage, it is plainly clear that Marquez knew exactly what he was doing, what he had prepared and planned to do. He didn't move first and hope that Pac would fall into his punch. He reacted to Manny's lunge with a perfect counter. Deal with it as this thread is a farce. An attempt at a more sophistocated way of saying: "I can't wrap my head around my hero getting knocked out cold and need a way to discredit the man who beat him". See? One sentence would've done.

[Nekronicle]

Look at Marquez catching his sparring partner with that same lucky shot :



Goddamn, he must have a 4 leaf clover in his trunks or something...

Ignoring the fact that this is not Pacman, and ignoring everything else that surrounded that KO (trip forcing the guard to be dropped, JMM getting outboxed, JMM throwing that same punch at the 10 second mark as if it was in fact a hail mary), the Overhand right is textbook agaisnt a southpaw....JMM did what any boxer should do against a southpaw...replace JMM with any fighter who knows basics, and that punch would have got thrown.

i'd stop trying if i were you. it's seems pointless

countless good points go ignored for the sake of furthering his flawed argument. that post you put up previously was gold. hit the nail on the head

lol, I have replied to several posts praising there reasoning...I have not to posts that say there are such thing as Lucky punches in boxing, but is incapable of providing a legit example of there definition...

The more this thread goes on, the more the agenda of thread starter is revealed. We get it. You're sore that Pacquiao got knocked into unconsciousness, even though he was doing well. You can't accept that Marquez, despite preparing meticulously to land a specific punch, despite saying before the fight he was going for a knock out, despite having fought Pacquiao three times before therefore knowing his habits in the ring, despite being a great counter-pnuncher with timing and technique- actually managed to pull it off. It's clear this whole "lucky punch" thread is a thin veil trying to cover a deep disappointment that Manny Pacquiao suffered a loss in a manner few anticipated.

One thing that any boxing fan knows is that fight patterns, points and punch stats mean nothing when a knockout punch lands. It's the part of the appeal of sport, the savage beauty of boxing. It's something Manny Pacquiao himself seems to understand better than the thread starter. Looking at the footage, it is plainly clear that Marquez knew exactly what he was doing, what he had prepared and planned to do. He didn't move first and hope that Pac would fall into his punch. He reacted to Manny's lunge with a perfect counter. Deal with it as this thread is a farce. An attempt at a more sophistocated way of saying: "I can't wrap my head around my hero getting knocked out cold and need a way to discredit the man who beat him". See? One sentence would've done.

haha, even JMMs trainer was surprised, and described it as a phenomena... so for me to define why i consider it a lucky punch is hardly outlandish. Marquez WAS all those things..at this point in his career, he is an old slow shadow of his former self.. the PED's have increased his power , and thats his only improvement. Other than that, Pacman was outboxing, a boxer.

And i am not arguing that Marquez didnt know what he was doing, overhand right agaisnt a southpaw is a textbook punch.... the fact i knockd out Pacman cold though.. IS LUCK...im confident that JMM would of thrown that punch at that moment even if Pacquiao wasnt rushing in...becuase he threw that exact punch at the 10 second mark, with on clear intention other than hoping Pac would rush into the fist.

[Nekronicle]

and my official opinion on pacquiao is that he is one of the most overrated fighter who has fought nothing but drained, washed up past their prime fighters coming off huge losses. JMM in his prime, was far better than Pacquiao ever was or will be...but at this point, Pacman is the better boxer...not because he surpassed JMM in skill..but because JMM is on the downhill slope of his career.