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  • Realizniguhnit
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    #91
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    I never accused Manny and I ain't going to accuse Marquez until them dudes get caught. Manny just had his fights set up with catch weights and fighters on the decline. His refusals are suspect but I think he is a product of good match making and hype off of Mayweather's name. Marquez has always been a great top fighter in the sport and has as many KO's as Pacquiao so anything can happen. Ain't like Manny never been KO'd before. That punch would have put a mule out cold. Maybe they were or maybe not but before I go pointing the finger, I would like it to be a known fact.
    Maybe you are someone who needs the facts shoved down your throat, but certain things are just obvious.. Pacquaio was hit harder around his gloves during the Cotto and didn't go down, yet the first time Marquez caught him with a punch outside of Manny's gloves he went down. I've seen manny hit like that numerous times, by heavier guys, he's never went down like that. Manny wasn't Manny last night when it came to absorbing punches, all that "well-timed" crap is BS.. Manny has never been KO'ed in that fashion.. weather it's from him no longer being on the juice or Marquez being on the juice is the real question

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    • GRUSTLER
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      #92
      Originally posted by Teejro
      it was a great punch JMM landed, but it is suspect that JMM was never able to hurt Manny in any of their previous fights... and the two best punches JMM landed both put Pacquiao down in this fight... even Nacho was shocked on the KO... BUT JMM hires a man that was caught selling steriods and knows how to hide the use of steriods when tested... Now JMM is now very muscular and has one punch knock out power? throughout JMM career he has never knocked a fighter out like he did Pacquioa last night. That put Pacman out motionless... it's suspect...
      JMM was focused on the KO because he knew there was a great chance he would get robbed again. He perfected his punch and timing. Why is this so hard to believe? I could understand it is was Ivan Calderon or Pauli Malignaggi but this was JMM who put tough bearded fighters out cold before. you guys are smoking. He was getting beat up with a busted nose before he KO'd Manny.

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      • hitking
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        #93
        Originally posted by El Presidente
        So Money Mayweather made JMM look like an amateur, so I doubt JMM would want a rematch, but Floyd may make him an offer he can't refuse.

        Is Rouch 0-7 this year??
        There is absolutely no need, nor appeal in a Mayweather-Marquez rematch. That fight was so utterly lopsided that Floyd was criticized for even taking the fight. JMM seemed resigned to the fact that he isn't on Floyd's level. All last night did was defined and puncuated an era. Floyd is the best, and that can't be questioned. And as of now, JMM is #2 and Pac is #3. Now, that could all change if Pac comes back and gets a convincing victory over JMM in a 5th fight, which I would pick him to do. But I think its pretty evident that these two are evenly matched. It is also evident that neither ever has and never will be on Floyd's level.

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        • Realizniguhnit
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          #94
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER
          Ha ha ha ha! That wold be funny if it indeed happened like that. I just don't want to speculate because I consider Marquez one of the best in the sport and respect his skill as a fighter. He's in the ring to fight and go all out. He had Pacquiao's number all along but he had to polish up his game plan. Wasn't like Pacquiao was hard to hit flush with a power shot.
          It did happen like that. Marquez is one of the greats, I don't even think he ever dabbled in PED's until last year when he came to the conclusion that Pacquiao himself had been juicing and he choose to fight fire with fire. Pacquiao didn't want to accept OST's, Marquez juiced. Simple.

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          • Fudgeit
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            #95
            The first knockdown Alone I was like =O
            Pac was swept of his feet!!

            When Marquez went down I thought this is going to be the turning point and for a little while it was...then BAM! It was all over, I was starstruck lol. Never thought the day would come

            Whatever goes up, must come down...It was your time Pacquiao

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            • GRUSTLER
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              #96
              Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
              Maybe you are someone who needs the facts shoved down your throat, but certain things are just obvious.. Pacquaio was hit harder around his gloves during the Cotto and didn't go down, yet the first time Marquez caught him with a punch outside of Manny's gloves he went down. I've seen manny hit like that numerous times, by heavier guys, he's never went down like that. Manny wasn't Manny last night when it came to absorbing punches, all that "well-timed" crap is BS.. Manny has never been KO'ed in that fashion.. weather it's from him no longer being on the juice or Marquez being on the juice is the real question
              I am not going to cosign anything without it being a FACT. This is your speculated opinion. In Boxing anyone can get KO'd at anytime and it happened. Pacquiao wasn't invincible but made out to be. Marquez clocked him. I give JMM full credit and won't taint his win with "He's juicing" accusations until he is caught.

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              • GRUSTLER
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                #97
                Originally posted by hitking
                There is absolutely no need, nor appeal in a Mayweather-Marquez rematch. That fight was so utterly lopsided that Floyd was criticized for even taking the fight. JMM seemed resigned to the fact that he isn't on Floyd's level. All last night did was defined and puncuated an era. Floyd is the best, and that can't be questioned. And as of now, JMM is #2 and Pac is #3. Now, that could all change if Pac comes back and gets a convincing victory over JMM in a 5th fight, which I would pick him to do. But I think its pretty evident that these two are evenly matched. It is also evident that neither ever has and never will be on Floyd's level.
                Nah bruh..... after a KO like that. Marquez confidence is sky high and Pacquiao's is way down. Once Pacquiao got KO'd like that then the fights between them will never be even again because Marquez has his number OFFICIALLY.

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                • Realizniguhnit
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                  I am not going to cosign anything without it being a FACT. This is your speculated opinion. In Boxing anyone can get KO'd at anytime and it happened. Pacquiao wasn't invincible but made out to be. Marquez clocked him. I give JMM full credit and won't taint his win with "He's juicing" accusations until he is caught.
                  He won't be caught, that's why it's called "juicing" just gotta use common sense. Guy hired a former admitted steroid dealer outta no where.

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                  • southpaw_07
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                    #99
                    I bet Nacho peed in his diapers when this happened...

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                    • HarvardBlue
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by hitking
                      The sad thing about last night's result is that it gives off the impression that this whole Pacmania trip the world has been on the last couple years was more hype than substance and makes Pac look like a bit of a fraud. I mean, the whole "Fighter of the Decade" looks like complete and utter nonsense seeing how Pac is now clearly only the third best fighter of his era. And the mountain he been able to stand on shouting, "Floyd is scared of me", is rendered moot because of the way Floyd toyed with JMM. Last night defined an era. Funny how everyone has been screaming about wanting to see the best two fighters of this era fight the last 4-5 years. And all this time that match-up has already happen the night Floyd made JMM look like a little kid fighting a grown man.
                      Great post!

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