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  • amayseng
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    #81
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    Manny should have taken the Mayweather fight back in 09. win or lose he would have made more and had a longer career. Bob Arum put him against back to back Top Rank fighters/affiliates until his time was up. JMM put Pac out in 6 rounds. who would have thought? Manny is going to be nervous now in the ring and all of these young guys who will end up fighting Manny will practice that punch. Pacquiao number has been called. I don't think he would ever fight JMM again.
    Those were accumulation knockouts.

    From rounds of damage


    Last night at near 40 jmm is now a devestating one punch killer


    Ironically he has an admitted steroid trainer in his corner

    Who beat Olympic testing for years.


    If you don't have su****ion then there's no debating anything

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    • GRUSTLER
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      #82
      Originally posted by WESS
      Well the bottom line is, If Pac would have taken the blood tests like he said he would do, we wouldn't have people questioning this.

      We all know JMM would test as he gave Pac the same option Floyd did with the I will test if you will test. Just like Mosley offered. We all know what happened on both these occasions.

      Yet somehow people still say "but Floyd"
      It's ridiculous how his fans (Not all) are screaming JMM was/is on something but for 3 YEARS they defended Manny for NOT taking damn blood tests? It's utterly ridiculous. Pac got his @ss handed to him and that's the reality of it.

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      • Realizniguhnit
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        #83
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        Yeah, but Manny could have been juicing in this fight too. Top Rank didn't want the test PLUS Manny and Roach didn't stress it so why are you? Pacquiao actually had Marquez leaking and in trouble before the KO punch. It was well timed with Pacquiao leaning in and Marquez pulling the trigger right on the button. Marquez has KO'd guys before so why is he being looked at as a cheat? It's boxing. Any fighter can get KO'd. Manny took the L and gave it up so everyone should do the same.
        Manny was juicing.. Marquez is juicing.. you talk about stressing it but Floyd Mayweather is #1 p4p on my list. Manny and Marquez can beat each other half to death for all I care, but I do know that steroids is rampant in boxing and both have appeared to have dabbled, thankfully both are on there way out of the sport. People like you have no problem with fighters juicing as long as u get your entertainment value, it's sad..

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        • El Presidente
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          #84
          So Money Mayweather made JMM look like an amateur, so I doubt JMM would want a rematch, but Floyd may make him an offer he can't refuse.

          Is Rouch 0-7 this year??

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          • GRUSTLER
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            #85
            Originally posted by amayseng
            Those were accumulation knockouts.

            From rounds of damage



            Last night at near 40 jmm is now a devestating one punch killer


            Ironically he has an admitted steroid trainer in his corner

            Who beat Olympic testing for years
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            If you don't have su****ion then there's no debating anything

            So..... you're telling me that JMM wasn't putting any hurting on Pacquiao throughout them 6 rounds to set up the KO? Wasn't it Ariza who said "Pacquiao don't know what I put in his shakes"? Go ahead with that. Manny refused to take random blood tests for YEARS with every excuse in the book but yet he was justified because he never failed a test? Well guess what? Neither has Juan Manuel Marquez and he even offered to get tested in his 3rd fight with the same strength and conditioning coach in his corner as the 4th fight AND he was down to do it again but Top Rank didn't want to do it. Cry me a river.

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            • Realizniguhnit
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              #86
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER
              It's ridiculous how his fans (Not all) are screaming JMM was/is on something but for 3 YEARS they defended Manny for NOT taking damn blood tests? It's utterly ridiculous. Pac got his @ss handed to him and that's the reality of it.
              I don't defend either, both are current/former users as far as I am concerned. Marquez publicly called out Pac many times for his refusal of OST's, when his calls went unanswered, he hired as former admitted steroid dealer and took Pacquiao out with one clean blow. Call it getting even..

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              • GRUSTLER
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                #87
                Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
                Manny was juicing.. Marquez is juicing.. you talk about stressing it but Floyd Mayweather is #1 p4p on my list. Manny and Marquez can beat each other half to death for all I care, but I do know that steroids is rampant in boxing and both have appeared to have dabbled, thankfully both are on there way out of the sport. People like you have no problem with fighters juicing as long as u get your entertainment value, it's sad..
                I never accused Manny and I ain't going to accuse Marquez until them dudes get caught. Manny just had his fights set up with catch weights and fighters on the decline. His refusals are suspect but I think he is a product of good match making and hype off of Mayweather's name. Marquez has always been a great top fighter in the sport and has as many KO's as Pacquiao so anything can happen. Ain't like Manny never been KO'd before. That punch would have put a mule out cold. Maybe they were or maybe not but before I go pointing the finger, I would like it to be a known fact.

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                • Xyei
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                  #88
                  What a bunch of butt hurt faggots.

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                  • GRUSTLER
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Realizniguhnit
                    I don't defend either, both are current/former users as far as I am concerned. Marquez publicly called out Pac many times for his refusal of OST's, when his calls went unanswered, he hired as former admitted steroid dealer and took Pacquiao out with one clean blow. Call it getting even..
                    Ha ha ha ha! That wold be funny if it indeed happened like that. I just don't want to speculate because I consider Marquez one of the best in the sport and respect his skill as a fighter. He's in the ring to fight and go all out. He had Pacquiao's number all along but he had to polish up his game plan. Wasn't like Pacquiao was hard to hit flush with a power shot.

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                    • Teejro
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                      #90
                      it was a great punch JMM landed, but it is suspect that JMM was never able to hurt Manny in any of their previous fights... and the two best punches JMM landed both put Pacquiao down in this fight... even Nacho was shocked on the KO... BUT JMM hires a man that was caught selling steriods and knows how to hide the use of steriods when tested... Now JMM is now very muscular and has one punch knock out power? throughout JMM career he has never knocked a fighter out like he did Pacquioa last night. That put Pacman out motionless... it's suspect...

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