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  • #51
    Is Haye A Pathological Liar?

    Dear Sir, November 7th, 2012

    Is Haye A Pathological Liar?

    1.After his loss to Wladimir Klitschko in July 2011, he wanted a rematch. WK refused because Vitali Klitschko keenly wants to box Haye. VK wants to KO Haye for personal reasons alone. In reply, Haye expressed a keen interest.

    2. In October 2011,Haye, no longer a champion, retires. He claimed money offered by VK was not right and his career is over.

    3. In November 2011, he claimed he may come out the retirement to fight a Klitschko.

    4. VK, after offering a firm fight proposal to Haye, got tired of Haye's ambiguity. VK replaces Haye with Dereck Chisora in early December 2011. Chisora's performance against one-armed Helenius in December 2011 and his readiness to fight VK on February 2012 impressed VK.

    5. During the press conference Haye crashes,after Klitschko defeated Chisora with one-arm, Haye demands that VK fight him on financial terms agreed to in December 2011. Was Haye's statement an outright lie? Why would VK agree to terms with one fighter and yet fight another fighter?

    6. Despite that,VK offered a fight to Haye in Moscow on September 8th 2012. There is ample evidence to support this. While Haye did not refuse this offer, he accepts another offer to fight Chisora on July 14th,2012.While he insisted on fighting VK in September,VK naturally withdrew his offer. The two main reasons for this withdrawal were

    A. What if Haye lost in July? Then VK's fight with Haye would make no sense.
    B. Even if Haye won, what if he sustained injuries and cuts that prevent him from preparing properly for VK in a short 8 week gap? Haye was already infamous in using "little-toe"excuse.Why give Haye an opportunity to cite excuses?

    7. Haye cited that VK's team told him that VK would fight the winner of Haye-Chisora?
    That is an absolute fabrication. Why would VK do that, considering he had just beaten Chisora handily? If he wanted to fight Chisora again,then there would have been an immediate rematch. VK has always wanted to fight Haye. So why would he jeopardize that by wanting Haye to fight someone else?

    8. In September 2012, VK cited Haye, and not Manuel Charr, should have been his opponent at the September's fight press conference.

    9. In late September, Haye cited his unwillingness to fight in Ukraine because of racist "death threats". Yet VK's ideal place to fight would be Ukraine considering he is a highly active politician in that country..

    10.In mid-October, Haye claimed to have an iron-clad contract with VK, with all terms and conditions defined except date and venue. Since VK is head of a new major party that is now mired in national politics, why would VK give Haye such a contract? No one has corroborated Haye's claim.

    Since VK's future is uncertain as he is become a prominent political figure in a nation of 46 million, it is the utmost hope that WK calls out Haye and then have finally fights the Brit before March 31st, 2013. Step-aside money can be offered to Povetkin for this to happen.

    There would finally be closure to this miserable ordeal. Yet Haye refuses to put forth any serious effort to land a match with either Klitschko. A fight with Tyson Fury on December 1st would have guaranteed him a title shot. Yet Haye opt to go to an Australian jungle for a weeks to participate in a reality show. VK remarks to the effect that how can anyone take Haye seriously when he decides to do this? VK still trains hard despite his heavy political demands.

    Very Truly Yours,
    Harsha Sankar
    Bangalore

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    • #52
      Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
      And thats whats bad for boxing! The best ducking and Dodging eachother. Mayweather and Vitali both! These guys are ruining the sport, and the fans just sit, and pick certain fighters to hate, and certain fighters to be biased for! Im a real fan, I used to be on these sites sticking up for Floyd! But now Floyd has made it impossible for me to keep sticking up for him, so I call a duck a duck! Im just true to the sport. I dont think Vitali has earned the right to duck Haye! No fighter has earned the right to duck! Fight the best, or give up the belts.
      You are a real fan? What a load of BS! Because if you were you would not talk as if Haye is some innocent bystander and you would call him out on his BS. But somehow you all have forgotten what has transpired and also what hasn't since Haye has moved up to HW.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
        You all say this but the thing is would you give Vitali any credit? No, no you wouldn't. You'd only say the division sucked, he'd already lost to one Klitschko, he was malnourished from his jungle adventures etc

        You're calling Vitali Klitschko of all people a coward? Haye could of fought Vitali when he was 37/38 he has waited for him to hit 41 and would be 42 by the time the fight came around, now that is what you call a coward.

        Haye only fights old men & fat bums like Audrey, Chisora. The guy is a joke.
        Why isn't he challenging the young blood in Povektin, Fury & Price?

        He has continually ducked Vitali like the plague, I predicted years ago he would until Vitali was ancient if he even bothered to fight him at all. He is so transparent and his fanbase fall for his lies, squirming and cherrypicking everytime.

        He only entered the jungle to kill more time, making out he wants it but as usual is using stalling tactics.
        Of course they wouldn't give him credit lol...He beats Haye than it's going to be "Well let's see if Vitali has the balls to fight Price or Fury (LOL), they can surely beat him!"

        So it's this cycle. I put LOL after Fury, because after his recent performance against Kingpin, I'm not sure this guy can even get past Arreola.

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        • #54
          Vitali even at 42 will smash Hayes overrated, lunging ass to pieces if they ever do meet. All these Haye fans will crawl back under their rock until Mr Haye comes out the woodwork again, calling out either a fat bum or a 40+ yr old that is on the slide.

          Why won't he fight Pulev, Povetkin, Fury or Price? Povektin has a title, he is also a big draw that wants to fight him. If he beat Povetkin he could attempt to unify and avenge his loss...

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Ravens Fan View Post
            You are a real fan? What a load of BS! Because if you were you would not talk as if Haye is some innocent bystander and you would call him out on his BS. But somehow you all have forgotten what has transpired and also what hasn't since Haye has moved up to HW.
            We talked about this very same thing a while back, so I dont know why you even brought it up! Right is right, and wrong is wrong! Haye ducked them both, fought bums, I have said all of this before! But things are different now! Vitali is ducking Haye now! It is what it is! Im not even a Haye fan, but I became one after he busted Chisora's ass like 1,2,3,. Chisora basically busted Vitali's ass in contrast to what Haye did!

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            • #56
              Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
              Vitali even at 42 will smash Hayes overrated, lunging ass to pieces if they ever do meet. All these Haye fans will crawl back under their rock until Mr Haye comes out the woodwork again, calling out either a fat bum or a 40+ yr old that is on the slide.

              Why won't he fight Pulev, Povetkin, Fury or Price? Povektin has a title, he is also a big draw that wants to fight him. If he beat Povetkin he could attempt to unify and avenge his loss...
              Cuz he wants to fight Vitali, and thats the biggest fight out there! You say Haye would lose to Vitali in a one sided fight, I only wish Vitali felt the same way! He just wont get in there and fight the guy.

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              • #57
                haye's biggest problem is simply that he doesn't fight enough. He will go down as a wasted talent unfortunately because sometimes his fights can be very entertaining - when he's fighting guys his own size. he was great at cruiser but once he went to heavy he basically stopped fighting

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                  Cuz he wants to fight Vitali, and thats the biggest fight out there! You say Haye would lose to Vitali in a one sided fight, I only wish Vitali felt the same way! He just wont get in there and fight the guy.

                  Povetkin in Germany would do just as well and there would be too gain, hes undefeated too and has a win over Huck who has bad blood with Vitali, he also took Chambers '0' IMO a better win than anything Haye has.

                  6 months time fights with Price or Fury would be just as big especially with Furys mouth and it would sell due to the freak factor with both guys being huge.

                  All 3 IMO would be just as big and the fights themselves would be far more entertaining than watching Haye back-peddle in full retreat.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                    We talked about this very same thing a while back, so I dont know why you even brought it up! Right is right, and wrong is wrong! Haye ducked them both, fought bums, I have said all of this before! But things are different now! Vitali is ducking Haye now! It is what it is! Im not even a Haye fan, but I became one after he busted Chisora's ass like 1,2,3,. Chisora basically busted Vitali's ass in contrast to what Haye did!
                    This tells me you are really not a real fan as you claim. And the one thing that really has changed that no one can dispute is the fact that Vitali is almost 42 years old and way past his prime. And if he does decide to fight again more power to him and if he retires tomorrow God bless him!

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Ravens Fan View Post
                      This tells me you are really not a real fan as you claim. And the one thing that really has changed that no one can dispute is the fact that Vitali is almost 42 years old and way past his prime. And if he does decide to fight again more power to him and if he retires tomorrow God bless him!
                      So that makes me not a fan, because I said compared to what Haye did to Chisora, opposed to what he did with Vitali, was basically an asswhoopin? Yet you pic certain fighters to jock, and hate, and act biased? Your a stan, and a hater! Im not, Im a fan of the sport, and I want the best to fight the best! When Floyd made it impossible for me to stand up for him anymore, I had to call that brother a duck! Im a real fan, and Im proud to show my sport respect! You just dont know boxing.

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