Comments Thread For: V. Klitschko Admits End is Near, Rips David Haye

[Ravens Fan]

you seem to forget vitali pulled out of 2fights vs rahman & one with maskaev before he took a 3.5 year hiatus. wlad was on the brink of unifying & vitali came out of retiring & beat sam peter & we have not had anywhere near a unified champion. secondly vitali & haye only had a verbal agreement to fight & then DON KING snuck in the back door gave haye a offer he couldn't refuse to fight valuev. king knew if haye beat valuev he would have 3 options on haye which meant he would get a nice enveelope of money from 3 HAYE PPVS. haye would have been a complete moron not to take the king offer as if he beat valuev(which he did)he would have a belt to dangle at the negotiation table & he knew the belts were so precious to the klitschko's & he would be able to make a fight more on even terms instead of rematch clauses & whatever other BS things the brothers wanted. money talks & haye is damn good at self promoting & making money. don king snuck in the backdoor again much like he is doing with stiverne\arreola. he promotes stiverne & won the purse bid by more then double the next best offer. if arreola wins you can bet king will have options on arreola too. it was don king who screwed the klitschko's not haye when he didn't fight vitali & instead fought valuev.

Let me see if I understand. A verbal agreement between Haye and Viali means nothing yet something Vit's manager blurted out at a press conference is somehow carved in stone? The fact that Haye would complain about K2's so called slave contracts and then sign a contract with the devil himself in Don King. That in my opinion doesn't say much for Haye's credibility as far as complaints about slave contracts are concerned.

Haye was also somewhat of an unknown quantity at HW before he fought Valuev. Everyone knew he was exciting and had power. But because the Valuev fight was such a stinker that in my opinion Haye didn't even do enough to win that in the end I believe it hurt Haye more than it helped. And why did it hurt? Because it was by far one of the most boring snooze fest that has ever disgraced a boxing ring.

Therefore I believe that Haye would have made much more money against Vitali the first time around when he was still a new face in the division. Think Gerry Cooney, he struck when the iron was hot and became a very wealthy man in the process.

Don't get me wrong because I am not saying that Haye hasn't made money. I just think his value took a big hit with the two stink fest with Valuev and Fraudley. I also don't think that the foul fest of an excuse for a boxing match against a very washed up Ruiz did much to help his cause. But in the end he got what he wanted by fighting Wlad. But considering the fact that no one was anywhere near as hype for fight, I know I wasn't, as they had been a few years earlier I can't help but believe that in the end it was for a lot less money. And that is all Haye really cares about.

I have to ask are you trying to imply that Vit was somehow afraid of Rahman or the Big O? Well in my opinion that doesn't even deserve a response. So I have nothing more to say about that.

[Jam Jars]

blah blah blah......... Klitschko fans living in the past still. Nobody gives a *** about what happened 2 and 3 years ago, we've been over it a thousand times.

[IMDAZED]

Let me see if I understand. A verbal agreement between Haye and Viali means nothing yet something Vit's manager blurted out at a press conference is somehow carved in stone? The fact that Haye would complain about K2's so called slave contracts and then sign a contract with the devil himself in Don King. That in my opinion doesn't say much for Haye's credibility as far as complaints about slave contracts are concerned.

Haye was also somewhat of an unknown quantity at HW before he fought Valuev. Everyone knew he was exciting and had power. But because the Valuev fight was such a stinker that in my opinion Haye didn't even do enough to win that in the end I believe it hurt Haye more than it helped. And why did it hurt? Because it was by far one of the most boring snooze fest that has ever disgraced a boxing ring.

Therefore I believe that Haye would have made much more money against Vitali the first time around when he was still a new face in the division. Think Gerry Cooney, he struck when the iron was hot and became a very wealthy man in the process.

Don't get me wrong because I am not saying that Haye hasn't made money. I just think his value took a big hit with the two stink fest with Valuev and Fraudley. I also don't think that the foul fest of an excuse for a boxing match against a very washed up Ruiz did much to help his cause. But in the end he got what he wanted by fighting Wlad. But considering the fact that no one was anywhere near as hype for fight, I know I wasn't, as they had been a few years earlier I can't help but believe that in the end it was for a lot less money. And that is all Haye really cares about.

I have to ask are you trying to imply that Vit was somehow afraid of Rahman or the Big O? Well in my opinion that doesn't even deserve a response. So I have nothing more to say about that.

Perhaps Haye didn't have to sign a slave contract with King. Most people who had good people behind them had great contracts with the Don (ie. Felix Trinidad)

[christianshreve]

It's obvious to everyone that Haye wants this fight. Vitali is afraid.

Do you believe that Vitali is really aftraid of David? After all these years, all these fights, and taking the best Lennox Lewis could throw right to his chin, that he would be afraid of another man?
Do please explain your point.

[Jam Jars]

Do you believe that Vitali is really aftraid of David? After all these years, all these fights, and taking the best Lennox Lewis could throw right to his chin, that he would be afraid of another man?
Do please explain your point.

He's afraid of losing. There's a difference but you're probably too ****** to understand.

[Ravens Fan]

He's afraid of losing. There's a difference but you're probably too ****** to understand.

Since you have been blessed with the ability to read minds why are you wasting your time on this boxing forum?

[Wesker115]

How many fights was the new Klitschko tv deal for? It was for both brothers right?
If so, in that case, I'd assume Vitali isnt retiring yet.

I'd like this fight to happen as Haye is universally recognized as the best bar the brothers. Personally I agree with an earlier post stating that Vit doesn't want to give Haye the pay day as he feels he hasn't earnt it & has an immense personal dislike for the man. The idea that Vitali is scared of anyone, or losing, is hilarious.

Unless Haye really does something in the next few years, he will go down as a massive waste of talent. He should knock out Price, Fury, Adamek, Povetkin & Wilder, rematch Wlad & then hall of fame beckons.

[FightScorer]

David Haye have the ability to become the 2nd best HW of this era, and when Wlad gets older, go for the knock out.

If Haye beats Vitali, it will revitalize his love for boxing and he will go on to conquer the rest.

[BattlingNelson]

Perhaps Haye didn't have to sign a slave contract with King. Most people who had good people behind them had great contracts with the Don (ie. Felix Trinidad)

It might be usefull to add that not only was the contract with Don King but it also included 3 options for Team Sauerland if I remember correctly.

[pedro1098]

im not being funny but vk has no other creditable foes to fight.