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Why did 'Prime' Roy Jones Jr avoid the 6 biggest punchers of his divisions?
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Originally posted by Jel View PostJust because Roy beat a weight drained Toney don't mean jack ****ing ****.
It literally don't mean anything when it comes to how he will do against Nunn or Dariuz or Mccellan or Benn or Eubank.
In fact Roy arguably only fought 2 of the top 10 fighters during Roy's era from 160-175.
I challenge anyone here to list the top 10 fighters from 160-175 during the 90's.
Do it.
You will see that Roy only fought 2. Toney and a Green Hopkins.
What would be the point in doing a top ten list of the 90's fighters from 160-175?
In the early 90's he was fighting nobodies apart from Castro. In 94 he moved to 168. So listing anyone at 160 after 93/94 would be pointless.
He only stayed at 168 for about 2 years. He couldn't even try and unify because he couldn't deal with Don King.
So again, listing anyone at 168 after 96 would be pointless.
It seems like you won't allow for any circumstances, and you have an agenda.
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TS obviously is referring to boxrec before making this thread.
Anyone who actually "followed" the sport as it was happening knows that the only lucrative fight that didn't happen due to negotiations was the Dariusz fight and maybe the 2nd Hopkins fight in the early 2000's.
The other fighters listed were beat by the guys Roy actually fought or weren't relevant due to several losses making a "potential" fight not interesting at the time.Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 11-30-2012, 05:34 PM.
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Originally posted by Jel View PostThis is a honest question. I want honest non bias answers.
Why did a Prime Roy Jones Jr never fight the 6 biggest punchers of his divisions?
They weren't just big punchers. You could make a case that they were 6 of the top 8 guys around Roy's divisions during his era.
Jackson-Mccellan-Daruiz-Nunn-Benn-Eubank. From 160-175
I'm serious. Why? Ya. Nobody beats Roy . Yep Yep. He will win every round against these six inferior human beings? Right? Ok. He still didn't fight any one of the six.
Not one.
Once again:
Roy's biggest rivals during his era
Toney
Collins
Nunn
Jackson
Mccellan
Hopkins
Benn
Eubank
Daruiz
He fought 2.
unless im missing something nobody on that list fought more than 3 other ppl on the list, only one more fighter than roy did. and the fighhters who did that were the brits who all fought eachother bcuz there was so much money to be made domesticly there was no way it couldnt happen.
dont get me wrong, i wish roy would have fought more of them too. but to say he ducked them is going too far considering they all struggled to fight one another with the exception of the brits. and even them tbh, they all fought eachother but they didnt come over to the states too often.
the winner of eubank-benn 2 was contractually obliged to fight nunn, a contract was already worked out but after it was declared a draw they both declined. just to make an example..
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Originally posted by Jel View PostThis is a honest question. I want honest non bias answers.
Why did a Prime Roy Jones Jr never fight the 6 biggest punchers of his divisions?
They weren't just big punchers. You could make a case that they were 6 of the top 8 guys around Roy's divisions during his era.
Jackson-Mccellan-Daruiz-Nunn-Benn-Eubank. From 160-175
I'm serious. Why? Ya. Nobody beats Roy . Yep Yep. He will win every round against these six inferior human beings? Right? Ok. He still didn't fight any one of the six.
Not one.
Once again:
Roy's biggest rivals during his era
Toney
Collins
Nunn
Jackson
Mccellan
Hopkins
Benn
Eubank
Daruiz
He fought 2.
Collins fought Eubank and Benn twice and then retired, we all know what happened to McClellan. Nunn was a non issue when Jones was ready to face the top fighters. Jackson was at his end
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Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View PostTS obviously is referring to boxrec before making this thread.
Anyone who actually "followed" the sport as it was happening knows that the only lucrative fight that didn't happen due to negotiations was the Dariusz fight and maybe the 2nd Hopkins fight in the early 2000's.
The other fighters listed were beat by the guys Roy actually fought or weren't relevant due to several losses making a "potential" fight not interesting at the time.
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Originally posted by Light_Speed View PostHe fought Toney who was better than all these guys. Power doesn't mean **** if that's pretty much all you got.
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Originally posted by "Smokin Sugar" View PostToney is better than all those guys but it was still a cherry picked fight. Toney did'nt move too much he's mostly moves at the waste and slips his head. Jones knew he could win with his footwork.
That's amusing.
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