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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bozo_no no
    lol, take off your Nut Hugging glasses.

    Brewster's already stopped Wlad you fool.

    Yet Wlad targets a guy he's alreadly beat (who happens to be feather fisted) and that's the best choice for him according to you?

    He should be looking to avenge his loss. Period.

    He has the option of lobbying for both sanctioning bodies to inforce a title shot, and you're telling me it's a coincidence he'd prefer Byrd?

    Come one.

    Shouldn't Byrd look to avenge his loss to Wlad (period)? Throw some criticism at Byrd for dodging Wlad this year, instead of piling it all on Wlad, who took on the most dangerous puncher in the division (Peter)- a guy NObody wanted to face. Now, nobody wants to fight Wlad.

    Brewster has said he only wants unifications. That's a fact. So wouldn't it make sense for Wlad to go after Byrd again, in order to get a belt, and THEN he could get a fight with Brewster to attempt to avenge his loss?

    Yes, he's #1 contender for Brewster, but should Wlad sit around for a year until Brewster is forced to fight his mandatory, unification or not?

    It actually looks like Wlad will need the IBF and WBO to enforce his mandatory, because neither Brewster or Byrd seem to be looking at him as their next opponent, and Wlad has a date set with HBO already I believe.

    Just one of the reasons why boxing is a frustrating sport to be a fan of. Fighters like Byrd squat on their belts, and fighters like Wlad are avoided, even after fighting their way into #1 contender position. I predicted this immediately after the fight, that after seeing him go 12 full rounds and take punishment from a puncher like Peter and win fairly easily that NOBODY was going to be interested in fighting him. Wlad is going to have to wait for the IBF to threaten Byrd with stripping him by a certain date to get a fight with him, and EVEN THEN I'm not sure if Byrd will fight him.

    As for Brewster, he is obviously eyeing Valuev, if you read between the lines. Brewster has no problem fighting in Germany, and I'm sure he would make a nice payday in a unification with Valuev over there. And fighting Wlad is WAY more of a risk than fighting Valuev. If I were Brewster, I'd do the same thing. But from a fan's perspective, it's still frustrating.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
      Shouldn't Byrd look to avenge his loss to Wlad (period)? Throw some criticism at Byrd for dodging Wlad this year, instead of piling it all on Wlad, who took on the most dangerous puncher in the division (Peter)- a guy NObody wanted to face. Now, nobody wants to fight Wlad.

      .

      No, you dont understand. Wlad is the only Heavy that needs to avenge his losses. Byrd did not, Brewster did not, Ruiz only avenge 1 loss out of 6, Rahman did not. It would be hypocitical to call out Wlad for not avenging his defeats in the same thread Byrd, Rahman, and Brewster are named and not point the same fingure at them.

      But Bozo is right in one thing. Byrd will be easier for Wlad. I just do not see how Wlad fighting Byrd is a bad thing? Wlad-Brewster 2 would be a better fan fight, but Brewster said NO!


      Damn I am starting to miss Lewis.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Atwa_66
        I think it's ridicolous that anyone thinks Toney deserves to be in a ring with Hasim Rahman.
        and what has Rahman done since landing that 5th round punch? draw with a fat Tua? Lose to an old Holyfield? Loss to Ruiz? beat a string of out of shape no hopefuls? get knocked out worse vs Lewis in rematch?

        people talk like he IS the HW champ by default
        Last edited by TyrantT316; 12-28-2005, 02:01 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by S0UTHPAW
          Damn I am starting to miss Lewis.
          I never thought I'd say that, but I agree. You could criticize Lennox for a few things, but he never dodged anybody and kept the division moving. Byrd is a total roadblock for the division, sitting around totally healthy and dodging fights.

          Lennox took on so many dangerous opponents and punchers, and most at a point when they WERE dangerous, like taking out the garbage. The only fighter I think Lennox avoided was Wlad. When Lennox beat Tyson and Wlad beat Mercer, then HBO and everyone else was literally begging Lennox for a Wlad fight. Didn't happen. So then Wlad destroyed McCline, and after that NOBODY wanted to fight Wlad, Lennox included. That's the reason the Sanders fight happened- he was the only fighter with the balls to face Wlad. Something like 18 HW's turned that fight down before they got to Sanders. Then when Wlad loses to Sanders what happens? Lennox gets back in the mix, starts doing interviews again, gets all excited and immediately starts planning a comeback fight since Wlad was out of the picture for awhile. BUT I will say that I think it was more Manny advising Lennox to avoid Wlad, because of how impressed he was with him, than Lennox being scared to face him. I don't think Lennox was truly scared of facing any heavyweight.

          Wish I could say the same for the current IBF "champ."

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          • #35
            Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
            I never thought I'd say that, but I agree. You could criticize Lennox for a few things, but he never dodged anybody and kept the division moving. Byrd is a total roadblock for the division, sitting around totally healthy and dodging fights.

            Lennox took on so many dangerous opponents and punchers, and most at a point when they WERE dangerous, like taking out the garbage. The only fighter I think Lennox avoided was Wlad. When Lennox beat Tyson and Wlad beat Mercer, then HBO and everyone else was literally begging Lennox for a Wlad fight. Didn't happen. So then Wlad destroyed McCline, and after that NOBODY wanted to fight Wlad, Lennox included. That's the reason the Sanders fight happened- he was the only fighter with the balls to face Wlad. Something like 18 HW's turned that fight down before they got to Sanders. Then when Wlad loses to Sanders what happens? Lennox gets back in the mix, starts doing interviews again, gets all excited and immediately starts planning a comeback fight since Wlad was out of the picture for awhile. BUT I will say that I think it was more Manny advising Lennox to avoid Wlad, because of how impressed he was with him, than Lennox being scared to face him. I don't think Lennox was truly scared of facing any heavyweight.

            Wish I could say the same for the current IBF "champ."
            11 guys turned down fighting Wlad before Sanders, or so Jim Lampley said but i could be wrong

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            • #36
              Toney-Rahman is an easy UD victory for "Lights Out".

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              • #37
                2006= "lights Out"

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by TyrantT316
                  Toney vs Rahman takes place...this basically will determine whether all of the Toney hype is worth it or not...

                  Briggs WANTS Peter...whether it happens as their next fight is yet to be seen...but I have a feeling that Briggs's constant calling out will bait Peter into a showdown BEFORE the end of 2006

                  then Brewster WANTS Valuev and is content on unifying...

                  Well I don't know who else will fight Valuez...Rahman the "WBC Champion" :::sticks tongue out::: is busy with Toney...that leaves Brewster and Byrd...I don't see Byrd calling out anyone, so I have a feeling Brewster vs Valuez will come off...

                  if these fights take place, my picks are:

                  Toney UD Rahman
                  Peter TKO Briggs (in a good fight)
                  Brewster UD Valuev (UD depending on whether Valuev has a chin)

                  No telling what Byrd is up to...
                  byrd wont fight until october, and it will prob be against a mediocre opponent. if he loses, we will see a bunch of nuthuggers talking about how he is past his prime and how he good he was in his prime.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by PBF34
                    byrd wont fight until october, and it will prob be against a mediocre opponent. if he loses, we will see a bunch of nuthuggers talking about how he is past his prime and how he good he was in his prime.
                    Where did you hear that Byrd won't fight until October?

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