List Up your Non- Heavyweight Top 10 ATG list!

[Fasttimes]

Ray Robinson
Hank Armstrong
Harry Greb
Sam Langford
Ezzard Charles
Roberto Duran
Ben Leonard
Willie Pep
Ray Leonard
Mickey Walker

I feel like Robinson is the greatest, even though on any given day Greb or Armstrong could hold the #1 spot with what they did in their careers.

[Fasttimes]

C'mon, kids.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Ray Robinson
Hank Armstrong
Harry Greb
Sam Langford
Ezzard Charles
Roberto Duran
Ben Leonard
Willie Pep
Ray Leonard
Mickey Walker

I feel like Robinson is the greatest, even though on any given day Greb or Armstrong could hold the #1 spot with what they did in their careers.

Have you seen all of them fight?

[Fasttimes]

Have you seen all of them fight?

Not Greb, sadly. I've read enough on him and his resume speaks for itself though really.

Wins over Tunney, Flowers, Walker, Loughran, Bivins, Rosenbloom etc. is just bananas.


Beat EVERY HOF'er ever fought. **** is crazy. Dempsey ducked him, too.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Not Greb, sadly. I've read enough on him and his resume speaks for itself though really.

Wins over Tunney, Flowers, Walker, Loughran, Bivins, Rosenbloom etc. is just bananas.


Beat EVERY HOF'er ever fought. **** is crazy. Dempsey ducked him, too.

Reading and seeing is totally different. After reading how amazing a fight from back in the days was and I went and saw it and it bore the hell out of me, I don't hold exaggerated articles to high regards. That's just me though.

[Fasttimes]

Reading and seeing is totally different. After reading how amazing a fight from back in the days was and I went and saw it and it bore the hell out of me, I don't hold exaggerated articles to high regards. That's just me though.

His resume is exaggerated now

[pacmanis1]

Have you seen all of them fight?

^^^This. I hate when internet warriors claim to know enough about boxing to compile P4P list. The sport started in like what 1900? 1880? I've read about Gentlemen Jim, Benny Leonard, Willie Pep, and even watched clips of them, but it still doesn't give it justice. Unless you've seen the other fights from the guys who lost to the ATGs, those wins don't mean as much. I'm sorry but ATG lists are just regurgitation of what you've read, and honestly what do you expect, too many fights to see. I've read on wikipedia about Pancho Villa, but I couldn't tell you what his greatest fights are, because I don't truly understand how good the guys he beat were.

[Fasttimes]

Wikipedia?

[Mr. Fantastic]

His resume is exaggerated now

It could be but like I said, I'm just telling you my experience. Seeing them fight just opens a different world from the ones in writing.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Wikipedia?

I understand what you're saying with Wiki, I personally only go there to see the links that are at the bottom of the page. A lot of those links are either "not found" or not really as credible as others.