Victor Conte is a fraud. Andre Ward and Donaire should not work with him.

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  • Chemolina
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    #21
    Originally posted by jsfd26
    Y'all can defend this scumbag all you want but you won't change my opinion of him. And I will always be su****ious of Donaire.


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    It's not that I'm defending Conte, I'm just speaking from the facts. VADA seems to be a legit organization. It's unfortunate the Conte has been able to thrive after the Balco scandals but boxing is filled with less-than-honest people so I'm not surprised.

    As for Donaire (or other atheletes currently working with Conte) I hope that they are clean. Props to Donaire for testing year round. It's much more difficult to beat a test when they are administered randomly year round.

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    • sapaw
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      #22
      Originally posted by THE ИATAS
      Nope.

      Furhter this Conte-VADA conspiracy can be shot down with one simple word - Berto.

      Conte was working with Berto when Berto got busted by VADA for PEDs.

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      Originally posted by jsfd26
      Y'all can defend this scumbag all you want but you won't change my opinion of him. And I will always be su****ious of Donaire.


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      There's your answer... If he is working with VADA, there's no reason Berto got busted by VADA.

      But I do agree that its hard to trust Conte at this time.

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      • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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        #23
        Originally posted by Dr Rumack
        Quote:

        Originally Posted by jsfd26

        Y'all can defend this scumbag all you want but you won't change my opinion of him. And I will always be su****ious of Donaire.


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        Who's defending him? You've made claims that he's part of VADA that you couldn't back up, and now you're what? Saying that people asking you to back up your own statements is supporting Conte?
        I said I THINK hes part of VADA. Do you know how to read? Probably not...

        Whether he is or not is not gonna change my opinion of him. And it doesn't change the fact that he was involved with them. And I still stand by my argument that even if he's not part of VADA chances are he knows how to beat the testing.

        What does Conté being with Berto prove anything? I wasn't aware Conté was with Berto 24/7 and watched him eat, take and drink everything.



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        • Dr Rumack
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          #24
          Originally posted by jsfd26
          I said I THINK hes part of VADA. Do you know how to read? Probably not...

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          And you think he is part of VADA based on what? Don't go getting angry with people for asking you to explain your own comments.

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          • ИATAS
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            #25
            Originally posted by jsfd26
            I said I THINK hes part of VADA. Do you know how to read? Probably not...

            Whether he is or not is not gonna change my opinion of him. And it doesn't change the fact that he was involved with them. And I still stand by my argument that even if he's not part of VADA chances are he knows how to beat the testing.

            What does Conté being with Berto prove anything? I wasn't aware Conté was with Berto 24/7 and watched him eat, take and drink everything.



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            damn man get a clue. smh. Move on to another topic you're not doing well here.

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            • Frank Ducketts
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              #26
              Joseph Fendem26 is a Rigondeax fan. He's scared ****less of Donaire beating his hero which is why you're getting his ******* replies.

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              • radioraheem
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                #27
                Originally posted by Chemolina
                It's not that I'm defending Conte, I'm just speaking from the facts. VADA seems to be a legit organization. It's unfortunate the Conte has been able to thrive after the Balco scandals but boxing is filled with less-than-honest people so I'm not surprised.

                As for Donaire (or other atheletes currently working with Conte) I hope that they are clean. Props to Donaire for testing year round. It's much more difficult to beat a test when they are administered randomly year round.
                VADA is a legit organization, yes.

                But Donaire's year-round testing is not to be praised. It's not to be praised because if he tests positive when he's out of competition, it is very unlikely he will be penalized. And the general public won't be aware of the positive because VADA doesn't release results to the public without the fighter's permission.

                This is not even to talk about how it's also ******ed that all his opponents aren't testing the same way. And the entire point of random testing is to protect both fighters. Also keep in mind that because Donaire is attached to Conte, there is always a cloud of su****ion over him. Conte never talks about all of these details that can only be found under the fine print though. And Donaire's image would actually be better working with someone who didn't have such an internationally tarnished reputation.

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                • radioraheem
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dr Rumack
                  And you think he is part of VADA based on what? Don't go getting angry with people for asking you to explain your own comments.
                  People can easily make those allegations because of how much he promotes VADA consistently and regularly. He does it so much that it seems like he's a partner or shareholder. So it's not surprising that some have made that mistake. Even interviewers have asked Margaret Goodman (Founder of VADA) if Conte has some sort of big role in VADA.

                  And yet with USADA, he has been against them from the very beginning. Even though, USADA has a far greater reputation and deals with a wide range of sports. You would think he'd be consulting with USADA as much as he possibly can. Instead he criticizes them at any given opportunity.

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                  • KnockUTheFukOut
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                    #29
                    Nobody realize what Conte is doing? The man is trying to ruin the reputation of USADA with the hope that VADA will replace USADA, he is one of the masterminds of VADA, they say he is just an "ADVISER" but that is BS, he is very much apart of VADA I am sure

                    you can clearly see what he is doing, he bashes USADA then mentions VADA in the very same sentence every chance he gets...very smart Marketing by Conte!

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                    • sapaw
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut
                      Nobody realize what Conte is doing? The man is trying to ruin the reputation of USADA with the hope that VADA will replace USADA, he is one of the masterminds of VADA, they say he is just an "ADVISER" but that is BS, he is very much apart of VADA I am sure

                      you can clearly see what he is doing, he bashes USADA then mentions VADA in the very same sentence every chance he gets...very smart Marketing by Conte!
                      You might be right but how can you explain Berto got busted by VADA while Conte is working with Berto? He sold Berto to VADA?

                      Right now, USADA have lots to explain rather than VADA. VADA is doing well on their testing by catching cheater using their testing protocols/procedures while USADA, Im not sure if they are really catching cheaters or not (based on Morales and Quilli incidents ).

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