Austin Trout's Amateur Record?

[dan_cov]

Vanes knocking him down was nearly 10 years back when he was still a teenager. Doesn't mean anything today IMO

Vanes was also a tremendous amateur with a lot of experience and a very potent right hand.

[510hustler]

Vanes knocking him down was nearly 10 years back when he was still a teenager. Doesn't mean anything today IMO

Vanes was also a tremendous amateur with a lot of experience and a very potent right hand.

Right, but still something to keep in mind. (See Sillakh and Bute)

[dan_cov]

Right, but still something to keep in mind. (See Sillakh and Bute)

Most/all fighters have been knocked down/out in sparring, the amateurs etc
Including Cotto.

He may have a bad chin as it is quite untested though I do feel you're looking into things perhaps a bit much.

I'm a bit dumbstruck as to why hes circling to his right and why his jab was so lazy tbh

[dan_cov]

Slightly off topic but for those interested he is an depth look at Miguel's amateur record.

1998 Cotto finished 2nd place as a Lightweight at Junior World Championships in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Results were:
o Defeated Andrey Kolevin (Ukraine) PTS (15-3)
o Defeated Dana Laframboise (Canada) PTS (6-1)
o Defeated Darius Jasevicius (Lithuania) PTS (9-5)
o Lost to Anton Solopov (Russia) PTS (8-9)

* 1999 Cotto competed at the Panamerican Games in Winnipeg, Canada. Results were:
o Lost to Dana Laframboise (Canada) PTS (2-5)

* 1999 Cotto competed at the World Championships in Houston, USA. Results was:
o Lost to Robertas Nomeikas (Lithuania) PTS

* 2000 Cotto represented Puerto Rico as a Light Welterweight at 2000 Sydney Olympic Games. Result was:
o Lost to Mahamadkadir Abdullayev (Uzbekistan) [gold medallist] points


AMATEUR, PERSONAL BACKGROUND: Miguel said, “I was born in Caguas , Puerto Rico . I have two brothers. I'm the youngest. My father was in the military, in the Natonal Guard here in Puerto Rico for 25 years. My mom stayed at home and teach us how to live.

“When I was 11 years old, my weight was 156 pounds, and I tried to lose weight with boxing. My brothers were already boxing and I tried to do the same. I started at the Gym Bairoa in Caguas . I lost weight, but I started to feel something for boxing. In the beginning, it was just for game, but then I start to feel like, a love for boxing.

“ Jose Miguel Cotto is my brother. Juan Miguel boxed amateur, he never changed to professional. In my house, everyone is called Miguel. My father is Miguel Angel, Juan Miguel is my older brother, Jose Miguel is my brother, and me, Miguel Angel. My little kid is Miguel Angel, too. Jose Juan Cotto is my cousin.

“I had 125 amateur fights with 23 losses. I fought Panchito Bojado , Ricardo Williams . I fought Kelson Pinto , Muhammad Abdulaev .

“I was Puerto Rican national amateur champion from '97 to 2000, all at 132 pounds, but the last year at 140.

“I fought with Ivan Calderon when I was amateur, 100 pounds. [note: Calderon is the WBO mini-flyweight world champion] He beat me three to two. After that, we make the team of Puerto Rico to represent Puerto Rico in international competition. We were both in the Olympics in 2000. He's still at 105 pounds. He's, if not the best, one of my best friends.”...

2000 Olympics, Sydney, Australia, 139 pounds: in his first bout on 9-20-00 he lost a 17-7 decision against Muhammad Abdullaev of Uzbekistan, who went on to win the gold medal; looking back, Miguel said, “I felt that I did the best I could at the Olympics. Unfortunately, some judges don't see it that way. But I was very happy with my performance, and I felt that I won that fight.”…

1997, 1998, 1999 Puerto Rican National amateur champion, 132 pounds; 2000 Puerto Rican National amateur champion, 139 pounds…Miguel has been called “The greatest amateur boxer ever from Puerto Rico”…

He fought several other top amateurs: Miguel was 2-1 in three fights against Panchito Bojado of Mexico ; Miguel said, ‘My wins were decisive. One was five to zero and the other was eight to seven. The one that I lost was six to seven.”…

2000 USA-Puerto Rico Dual Meet – on 8-15-00 in Tacoma , WA , Miguel won a 28-22 decision against Ricardo Williams Jr.

[510hustler]

Most/all fighters have been knocked down/out in sparring, the amateurs etc
Including Cotto.

He may have a bad chin as it is quite untested though I do feel you're looking into things perhaps a bit much.

I'm a bit dumbstruck as to why hes circling to his right and why his jab was so lazy tbh

Not giving it that much weight. I think Trout beats Vanes if they go 12 rounds today.

[boliodogs]

I suspect he has a chin made of glass, that's why I am asking.

I don't know his record but someone posted a video of Vanes knocking him down and hurting him in the amateurs. In fairness to Trout it looked like a great punch that might have hurt anyone. Trout finished the fight. I think his chin is probably average and Cotto can KO him if he lands his best punches.

[510hustler]

I don't know his record but someone posted a video of Vanes knocking him down and hurting him in the amateurs. In fairness to Trout it looked like a great punch that might have hurt anyone. Trout finished the fight. I think his chin is probably average and Cotto can KO him if he lands his best punches.

Yeah bro, I posted it on the last page. He looked wobbly. But Vanes is the same height if not taller than Trout. Just something to keep in mind.

[Exciterx30]

Slightly off topic but for those interested he is an depth look at Miguel's amateur record.

1998 Cotto finished 2nd place as a Lightweight at Junior World Championships in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Results were:
o Defeated Andrey Kolevin (Ukraine) PTS (15-3)
o Defeated Dana Laframboise (Canada) PTS (6-1)
o Defeated Darius Jasevicius (Lithuania) PTS (9-5)
o Lost to Anton Solopov (Russia) PTS (8-9)

* 1999 Cotto competed at the Panamerican Games in Winnipeg, Canada. Results were:
o Lost to Dana Laframboise (Canada) PTS (2-5)

* 1999 Cotto competed at the World Championships in Houston, USA. Results was:
o Lost to Robertas Nomeikas (Lithuania) PTS

* 2000 Cotto represented Puerto Rico as a Light Welterweight at 2000 Sydney Olympic Games. Result was:
o Lost to Mahamadkadir Abdullayev (Uzbekistan) [gold medallist] points


AMATEUR, PERSONAL BACKGROUND: Miguel said, “I was born in Caguas , Puerto Rico . I have two brothers. I'm the youngest. My father was in the military, in the Natonal Guard here in Puerto Rico for 25 years. My mom stayed at home and teach us how to live.

“When I was 11 years old, my weight was 156 pounds, and I tried to lose weight with boxing. My brothers were already boxing and I tried to do the same. I started at the Gym Bairoa in Caguas . I lost weight, but I started to feel something for boxing. In the beginning, it was just for game, but then I start to feel like, a love for boxing.

“ Jose Miguel Cotto is my brother. Juan Miguel boxed amateur, he never changed to professional. In my house, everyone is called Miguel. My father is Miguel Angel, Juan Miguel is my older brother, Jose Miguel is my brother, and me, Miguel Angel. My little kid is Miguel Angel, too. Jose Juan Cotto is my cousin.

“I had 125 amateur fights with 23 losses. I fought Panchito Bojado , Ricardo Williams . I fought Kelson Pinto , Muhammad Abdulaev .

“I was Puerto Rican national amateur champion from '97 to 2000, all at 132 pounds, but the last year at 140.

“I fought with Ivan Calderon when I was amateur, 100 pounds. [note: Calderon is the WBO mini-flyweight world champion] He beat me three to two. After that, we make the team of Puerto Rico to represent Puerto Rico in international competition. We were both in the Olympics in 2000. He's still at 105 pounds. He's, if not the best, one of my best friends.”...

2000 Olympics, Sydney, Australia, 139 pounds: in his first bout on 9-20-00 he lost a 17-7 decision against Muhammad Abdullaev of Uzbekistan, who went on to win the gold medal; looking back, Miguel said, “I felt that I did the best I could at the Olympics. Unfortunately, some judges don't see it that way. But I was very happy with my performance, and I felt that I won that fight.”…

1997, 1998, 1999 Puerto Rican National amateur champion, 132 pounds; 2000 Puerto Rican National amateur champion, 139 pounds…Miguel has been called “The greatest amateur boxer ever from Puerto Rico”…

He fought several other top amateurs: Miguel was 2-1 in three fights against Panchito Bojado of Mexico ; Miguel said, ‘My wins were decisive. One was five to zero and the other was eight to seven. The one that I lost was six to seven.”…

2000 USA-Puerto Rico Dual Meet – on 8-15-00 in Tacoma , WA , Miguel won a 28-22 decision against Ricardo Williams Jr.

Do you know who rated Cotto that high as an amateur? Was it a boxing magazine? I ask because he would have to go against Wilfredo Gómez, who won gold at the 1974 amateur world championships and Daniel Santos, who was an olympic bronze medalist and has one of the most impressive amateur records you could find.