Originally posted by ELHURACAN58
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How can people call Cotto a bum
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Originally posted by Own3d View Post2 1/2 and 3 1/2 years before Mayweather and Pacquiao fought him. You use Mosley as one of his good fights but say pointing out that he should have lost adds nothing to peoples arguments? Cotto is nowhere near the level of Manny and Martinez, Pacquiao humiliated him ffs.
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Originally posted by Own3d View PostLosing 10 rounds and getting beat the crap out of = competitive?Last edited by ELHURACAN58; 11-25-2012, 10:24 AM.
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Cotto is a Hall of famer for sure. The only reason he gets a bad rep is because he's not the friendliest guy.
Only losses: margarito (everyone knows that story), PAC (another story) and Floyd.
2 of his losses were to potentially all time greats so in that case how is he not an elite fighter?
When he beats trout I want to see people give him his respect again bc there are way too many haters
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Originally posted by ELHURACAN58 View PostWow, you would put Martinez at Pacquiao's level? The only reason I see Martinez beating Cotto is because he's the bigger fighter. Cotto fought Pacquiao at a catchweight. If the fight is on Cotto's terms its a different fight altogether.
Cotto OFFERED the catch weight because pac was moving up a weight class again. It was on his terms.
Cotto got the ****e beat out of him, not competitive, yes mosley was shot when he fought cotto, a couple of years back he was past his prime, but by time of cotto he was shot.
Against floyd and pack, he won one round in 24 with a lucky punch, rest of the time was either getting punched in the face or running. gassed out 3 rounds of each fight, far worse than being shot.
Cotto went life and death with mosley and clottey, both fights he lost. He is not elite, he is not a level. He is an undisciplined fighter at B level. For example, at 147 his proper weight class, fights vs guys like berto, ortiz and guerrero would be 50-50.
I really think we should wait until after his next fight, he would get his ass kicked by martinez and saul. He may even lose next week
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Originally posted by ELHURACAN58 View PostWow, you would put Martinez at Pacquiao's level? The only reason I see Martinez beating Cotto is because he's the bigger fighter. Cotto fought Pacquiao at a catchweight. If the fight is on Cotto's terms its a different fight altogether.
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Originally posted by JuanRakan View PostCotto is a Hall of famer for sure. The only reason he gets a bad rep is because he's not the friendliest guy.
Only losses: margarito (everyone knows that story), PAC (another story) and Floyd.
2 of his losses were to potentially all time greats so in that case how is he not an elite fighter?
When he beats trout I want to see people give him his respect again bc there are way too many haters
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Originally posted by lfc19titles View Postlol
Cotto OFFERED the catch weight because pac was moving up a weight class again. It was on his terms.
Cotto got the ****e beat out of him, not competitive, yes mosley was shot when he fought cotto, a couple of years back he was past his prime, but by time of cotto he was shot.
Against floyd and pack, he won one round in 24 with a lucky punch, rest of the time was either getting punched in the face or running. gassed out 3 rounds of each fight, far worse than being shot.
Cotto went life and death with mosley and clottey, both fights he lost. He is not elite, he is not a level. He is an undisciplined fighter at B level. For example, at 147 his proper weight class, fights vs guys like berto, ortiz and guerrero would be 50-50.
I really think we should wait until after his next fight, he would get his ass kicked by martinez and saul. He may even lose next week
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cotto-c...0320--box.html
How funny a "shot" Mosley could still beat anyone not named Cotto, including the guy that took Cotto's 0.
Tell me when was Mosley shot? After the mayority loss to the natural 154 pounder Winky Wright? Or after the 5 wins he put together before facing Cotto?
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Originally posted by ELHURACAN58 View PostBusting up Floyds nose and Pacquiao's face and ears= competitive.
Cotto isn't an ATG, but he'll probably make the HOF. Miguel is a warrior who beat a lot of quality fighters and whose only undisputed losses were to the very best. (I don't know if Margarito cheated, but that outcome will forever be in question.)
Cotto is one of the most hated guys on these boards, so he's knocked at every turn. The moment I hear the word "bum", or anything like it, to describe Miguel, I lose regard for whatever else the poster has to say about him. Hate the man if you will, but at least be objective about him as a fighter.
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