Dirrell/Haye hippocrites

[Porter's Dad]

I'm a Haye fan you dimwit, it just doesn't stop me from criticizing him.

British is a race now?

You have to remember this.

This idiot comes from a perspective where he hates American fighters and revels in their defeats (not realising/caring that the sport badly needs a healthy American boxing scene to thrive)

So for him, it isn't that far-fetched that you hate British fighters because they're......British.

He's projecting his own warped mentality onto you.

[bojangles1987]

Dirrell won his fight

Haye flopped around while losing

That's what it comes down to, above all else.

[Jam Jars]

Dirrell won his fight

Haye flopped around while losing

Haye flopped around? Haye fell to the ground through Klitschko pushing down on his back and neck. Is the actual truth.

Yes it was undeserved, Valuev ain't **** he should have lost to old ass Holyfield. Haye's cruiserweight reign wasn't that great, he managed not to fight Adamek or Cunningham. Beating Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz and Harrison () shouldn't be enough to earn a shot at the #1 HW. AND he got a 50/50 split. Haye literally took the money and ran.

How am I racist since Dirrell is black and Haye is half black? You make no sense.

Undeserved? Tell me how fighters like Mormeck are more deserving.

[The Gambler1981]

It comes down to expectations and how the fights played out.

Dirrell was thought of as a very talented prospect athletically but not made of the sternest stuff, so people expected Froch to beat him up and stop him. Dirrell exceeded those expectations and in that fight the one who landed all of the good punches was Dirrell, so even though he fought in a lackluster manner (which if you knew Dirrell should not have been all that surprising) he did more than Froch to win that fight in terms of landing good punches.

Haye was rightly or wrongly expected to give Wlad a real stiff challenge, and he lost every round without coming out of his shell trying to win. Haye is a known talented fighter yet in the eyes of most he didn't play to win. People might have been misguided in their expectations of Haye's capabilities but that was a very big heavyweight fight, and people want to see a guy go all out when he is clearly losing the fight.

In short what Dirrell did worked (although he didn't get rewarded for it) while exceeding expectations and what Haye did did not work while failing to meet expectations.

[HeroBando]

Everyone knows Dirrell is liable to stink it out, but he didn't spend 3 years trashtalking his way to Froch, then give up on winning by round 5.

[Earl-Hickey]

You have to remember this.

This idiot comes from a perspective where he hates American fighters and revels in their defeats (not realising/caring that the sport badly needs a healthy American boxing scene to thrive)

So for him, it isn't that far-fetched that you hate British fighters because they're......British.

He's projecting his own warped mentality onto you.

Don't hate American fighters actually

SOME American posters on the other hand.....

[-Lowkey-]

In short what Dirrell did worked (although he didn't get rewarded for it)

So it didn't actually work then did it?

[Young Money]

Dirrell was a green fighter though. That was his first big fight in his pro career and in the UK. Haye on the otherhand had already established himself.

Also, running or not, Dirrell either won that fight or lost a close fight. Haye didn't win a round I don't think.

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[VatoMulatto]

For the record I agree with Earl, I think people's harshness stems from the fact that they hate Haye, the same thing happens to fighters like Mayweather and Khan. I don't even fault Haye for the way he fought in his fight with Wlad, what people see as ''taking a risk'' would in fact be a kamekaze attack. If he threw caution to the wind Wlad would have picked him apart, it was in his best interest to wait for an opening, unfortunately for Haye Wlad boxed cautiously.

C'mon now I like Haye but the fight was a huge let down and his performance was awful. If you can't find an opening then you need to change your game plan. Do something else and try to create openings. Take risks and gamble but Haye refused to do that cause he knew he could end up getting KO'd.

Dirrell on the other hand was very green and had never fought a top 10 fighter before...Even if a lot of ppl didn't like the way Dirrell fought the fight was very close and could've gone either way. Dirrell even hurt Froch while it was quite difficult to find a way to give Haye any rounds.

[Jam Jars]

Everyone knows Dirrell is liable to stink it out, but he didn't spend 3 years trashtalking his way to Froch, then give up on winning by round 5.

Give up winning? Haye trying to draw Wlad in by dropping his hands in front of Wlad is giving up? Wlad fought like a ***** refusing to engage with someone that had dropped their defences, content on using his range to land a few jabs and hold and lean on his opponent when he comes forward. People try to say it was Haye running but the truth is Wlad was the more defensive fighter.