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  • WolfGirl
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    #41
    If Floyd fought in the 90's, he would have been much higher on the ATG List but with more losses (probably 2-3) he would have been regarded as one of the very best. (On par with Leonard or close to it)

    The reason being, there was no way Floyd can be the cash cow in a 90's era dominated by Mike Tyson and the other Heavyweight stars. Floyd would not have been the face of boxing, he would have been just 'one of the lightweights' which would have forced him to fight everyone for a pay day.

    Floyd would have ducked no one. Why? Floyd won't be making that much money, he can't afford to duck no one if he was fighting in the 90's.

    Instead Floyd would have fought everyone and beaten the vast majority of them. Trilogies with Pernell, Chavez SR, a couple fights with Tito and Oscar(he'll probably get robbed in a few)

    People today will be like 'Remember that guy who fought on the Tyson undercards? He was something special"

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      #42
      Originally posted by viperz007
      i guess u could say he might have fought one of them or all of them
      but for me i cant imagine him fighting them when those guys were hot

      cant change the fact that floyd is floyd

      people imagining floyd fighting those guys in their best era is like imagining floyd as the fearless hulk

      cant change the faq that he is a health comes first type of fighter b4 money

      so to imagine him on any era i can imagine him taking a nice vacation while those guys are hot then comes back and fight them when the flame stops

      the TS is asking everyone to put the "same floyd" in a different era not a fearless version type of floyd which he is not


      I see what you're saying, but it's a lot easier to say, "Health before money," when you're swimming in cash. lol

      My point is simply that that was a different era and Mayweather would've been subject to the times just like the greats that came before him. I don't think he could've been a star without following suit.

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        #43
        To all the idiots who say Floyd will 'duck' in the 90's. No he won't. Because he wouldn't have been the cash cow. He would have fought everyone and he still won't be half the star Tyson was or even Holyfield. Floyd would have ducked nobody. In fact, he would probably have fought at MW as well.

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          #44
          Originally posted by WolfGirl
          If Floyd fought in the 90's, he would have been much higher on the ATG List but with more losses (probably 2-3) he would have been regarded as one of the very best. (On par with Leonard or close to it)

          The reason being, there was no way Floyd can be the cash cow in a 90's era dominated by Mike Tyson and the other Heavyweight stars. Floyd would not have been the face of boxing, he would have been just 'one of the lightweights' which would have forced him to fight everyone for a pay day.

          Floyd would have ducked no one. Why? Floyd won't be making that much money, he can't afford to duck no one if he was fighting in the 90's.

          Instead Floyd would have fought everyone and beaten the vast majority of them. Trilogies with Pernell, Chavez SR, a couple fights with Tito and Oscar(he'll probably get robbed in a few)

          People today will be like 'Remember that guy who fought on the Tyson undercards? He was something special"
          Similar to what I'm saying about Floyd in the 80s, the era of the "Fab Four".

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          • croz
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            #45
            Cotto
            Mosley
            JMM
            Hatton
            Oscar
            Baldomir
            Judah
            Gatti
            Coralles
            Castillio
            Genaro Hernandez
            Chavez
            Carlos Hernandez

            Show me one other fighter who has fought names like these and not only made it look easy but remained undefeated doing so? The 90s era would not touch Floyd.

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            • croz
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              #46
              Originally posted by WolfGirl
              If Floyd fought in the 90's, he would have been much higher on the ATG List but with more losses (probably 2-3) he would have been regarded as one of the very best. (On par with Leonard or close to it)

              The reason being, there was no way Floyd can be the cash cow in a 90's era dominated by Mike Tyson and the other Heavyweight stars. Floyd would not have been the face of boxing, he would have been just 'one of the lightweights' which would have forced him to fight everyone for a pay day.

              Floyd would have ducked no one. Why? Floyd won't be making that much money, he can't afford to duck no one if he was fighting in the 90's.

              Instead Floyd would have fought everyone and beaten the vast majority of them. Trilogies with Pernell, Chavez SR, a couple fights with Tito and Oscar(he'll probably get robbed in a few)

              People today will be like 'Remember that guy who fought on the Tyson undercards? He was something special"
              You know when Tyson went to jail it was Julio Ceaser Chavez who became the face of boxing for a while, a welterweight. I'm pretty frigging sure they would have loved someone like Mayweather to have been around.

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                #47
                If he was coming up from 130 to the WW Era of the mid-late 90's I don't think he'd be undefeated.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by WolfGirl
                  To all the idiots who say Floyd will 'duck' in the 90's. No he won't. Because he wouldn't have been the cash cow. He would have fought everyone and he still won't be half the star Tyson was or even Holyfield. Floyd would have ducked nobody. In fact, he would probably have fought at MW as well.
                  here is a perfect example of imagining floyd as the incredible hulk in a different era

                  dont forget he is a health comes first b4 money

                  the bolded part u cant say "in fact" when its just a part of ur delusional imagination

                  floyd's health comes first mentality will keep him having vacations in any era
                  fighting more than twice a year will put his health at risk which is out of his real self personality

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                  • WolfGirl
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by croz
                    Cotto
                    Mosley
                    JMM
                    Hatton
                    Oscar
                    Baldomir
                    Judah
                    Gatti
                    Coralles
                    Castillio
                    Genaro Hernandez
                    Chavez
                    Carlos Hernandez

                    Show me one other fighter who has fought names like these and not only made it look easy but remained undefeated doing so? The 90s era would not touch Floyd.
                    And here people we have the 'opposite extreme' fan boy.



                    You discrediting the 90's fighters like Pernell,Oscar,Trinidad, hell even the best version of Ike Quartey would have been a tough fight.

                    1- Sweet Pea
                    Pea is one of the best boxers ever. Hands down.
                    Almost impossible to hit, extremely creative, great reflexes, pure defensive genius, amazing balance, and fundamentally solid.


                    2-Oscar and Tito were bigWW'S and much bigger than Floyd.
                    Oscar was not shot, but close to it when he actually did fight Floyd and the styles he had planned was never going to work at that stage of his career because he no longer have the physical abilities/reflexes to pull it off.

                    People are underestimating how big of a size advantage someone like Trinidad have over Floyd. Prime Tito wasn't the boxer Floyd was, but he had amazing power, was a deadly finisher and will constantly push you.
                    Hopkins laid out the game plan to beat Tito.. Ya, that game plan is brilliant if you were a 6'1-6'2 future LHW Champ. Not if you were a 5'8, former lightweight.

                    Pernell and Oscar would all be 50-50 fights with Floyd if not out right favorites in the 90's, and Trinidad will be a very very live under dog. Floyd WILL lose in the 90's, and it won't diminish his legacy one bit. In fact, it will enhance it.

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                    • WolfGirl
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by viperz007
                      here is a perfect example of imagining floyd as the incredible hulk in a different era

                      dont forget he is a health comes first b4 money

                      the bolded part u cant say "in fact" when its just a part of ur delusional imagination

                      floyd's health comes first mentality will keep him having vacations in any era
                      fighting more than twice a year will put his health at risk which is out of his real self personality
                      Floyd fans who spew ignorant comments like 'Floyd will beat Duran easily and Floyd will dominate Prime Oscar' are just as dumb as Floyd haters like you who just can't accept the fact that Floyd would have fought a lot more fights in the 80's and 90's era because he would not have been a star.

                      Floyd says 'health come first' because he have already made millions, it sure as hell didn't 'come first' when he was fighting on under cards and still having to live on loan.
                      Last edited by WolfGirl; 11-20-2012, 06:31 PM.

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