Who's greater? Froch or Calzaghe?

[IronDanHamza]

Lol, who expected it?

No one.

Because Roy Jones was shot to pieces according to everyone with a grain of sense.

[AztecWanker]

Froch

Pascal (lost to older Hopkins)
Taylor (got KOed twice by Pavlik, KOed since and done as a fighter)
Dirrell (never won a title, good fighter though)
Abraham (looked pish at 168, won title vs bum)
Johnson (never won title at 168, shot nowadays)
Bute (good win vs Champion)
Lost to Kessler
Lost to Ward

Calzaghe

Eubank (great fighter, past prime)
Reid (good fighter, close fight)
Woodhall (ex champion, good fighter)
Brewer (ex champion, robbed vs Ottke)
Mitchell (ex champion, robbed vs Ottke)
Lacy (Champion, never been the same since)
Bika (good fighter)
Kessler (2 title Champ in prime)
Hopkins (Light Heavyweight Champion, went on to beat Pascal)
Jones (great fighter past his best, arguably as good as Taylor was)

then throw in guys like Sheika who was coming off win over Glen Johnson, Veit (30-0, beat Braehmer) and one or two others. Not a great resume but better than Froch's.

This list is EXTREMELY biased.

Pascal was prime and undefeated when Froch beat him.
Froch was supposed to LOSE to Taylor. It was called a tune-up for Taylor by some.
Johnson threw himself back into the mix after beating Mack and Green.
AA was still a top fighter. He was coming on strong late in the Dirrell fight. Not shot or anything like that.

All these are really good wins for Froch.

[IronDanHamza]

This list is EXTREMELY biased.

Pascal was prime and undefeated when Froch beat him.
Froch was supposed to LOSE to Taylor. It was called a tune-up for Taylor by some.
Johnson threw himself back into the mix after beating Mack and Green.
AA was still a top fighter. He was coming on strong late in the Dirrell fight. Not shot or anything like that.

All these are really good wins for Froch.

Let's not forget Taylor and Abraham were solid favourites to beat Froch.

[AztecWanker]

That's like saying that Froch is great for beating a bum ass Bute. If Bute's a bum, then what does that make Froch for beating him? You can't be great by beating bums. Again, you cant have it both ways.

Bute fight was 50-50 to alot of people. After Froch blitzed him, he's a bum.

Case closed?

Oh and the Jones Calzaghe beat would probably chin Taylor nowadays

I didn't even notice that you're from Wales. :smhhhh:

[MeanestNiceGuy]

If they took Froch and Calzaghe to the boxing HOF RIGHT NOW...who would be inducted? That should answer all questions....

[IronDanHamza]

Bute fight was 50-50 to alot of people. After Froch blitzed him, he's a bum.

Bute was also the favourite to beat him.

Amongst fans and the bookies.

[AztecWanker]

If they took Froch and Calzaghe to the boxing HOF RIGHT NOW...who would be inducted? That should answer all questions....

Froch's career isn't over, guy. Ask this when he officially retires. That should answer all questions.

[AztecWanker]

Bute was also the favourite to beat him.

Amongst fans and the bookies.

People forget things like this so quick.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Froch's career isn't over, guy. Ask this when he officially retires. That should answer all questions.

So why in the **** are we sitting here bickering about who's greater? Didn't I ALREADY say that we have to see how Froch's opponents do in the future?

[AztecWanker]

So why in the **** are we sitting here bickering about who's greater? Didn't I ALREADY say that we have to see how Froch's opponents do in the future?

Point taken but the fact that Froch fought fighters in their prime or close to it will only help him more cause fighters like Dirrell, Pascal, and Bute can all have a good career. Where Calzaghe's best wins like Lacy, Kessler, and Hopkins are all either retired or close to it. Plus Froch can do other things like move up and win a belt etc. Froch has more opportunities to end up greater than Calzaghe after all is said and done.