David Haye vs Mariusz Wach...

[Jam Jars]

Haye would not take the fight to Wach, he'd be doing his Valuev pot shot and run routine.

You expect a smaller fighter to play into the bigger mans hands by not moving? Only a ****** would get into a wrestling match with a fighter 100lbs heavier.

[Daddy T]

You expect a smaller fighter to play into the bigger mans hands by not moving? Only a ****** would get into a wrestling match with a fighter 100lbs heavier.

and in fairness simply getting in the ring with somebody that much bigger than you take balls ... asking him to give away 80 or 90 pounds and then not use his movement is bascally asking him to throw the fight, haye is what he is, he hasn't got a diamond chin and he's not spectacular on the inside, he's pretty good on the outside and can move slip and counter well - he's not gong to stand toe to toe with the giants and anybody expecting him to do so will be disapointed.

[Jam Jars]

would you please re-watch the ruiz-fight? it was a tko because ruiz was hit way too often and his corner threw in the towel, but at the time of the stoppage ruiz was far from being unable to defend himself. look at the number of clean shots ruiz took - and he was still standing.

He was on his way to getting stopped. He was getting caught more as the fight went on and most likely would have been dropped again before the end of the fight.

[gmc_rfc_06]

would you please re-watch the ruiz-fight? it was a tko because ruiz was hit way too often and his corner threw in the towel, but at the time of the stoppage ruiz was far from being unable to defend himself. look at the number of clean shots ruiz took - and he was still standing.

I've seen it plenty times; he was floored several times and had nothing left in the tank. His corner stopped it before Haye did it himself.

Haye's power is the best in boxing P4P imo, it's brutal. Chisora is a prime example.

[BetterCallSaul]

Haye would put Wach on the canvas simply because he throws combinations at different angles. Vitali couldn't make a dent in Chisora yet Haye almost put him in a coma. No doubt Vitali and Wlad hit harder, but the way Haye delivers his punches makes them have the greater effect if you get hit cleanly.

[Simurgh]

Haye would have virtually no chance to KO Wach. I think he would win similarly how he won against Valuev.

First Haye is very cautious when he fights big men - Wach is huge.

Second - Haye KOed Chisorra only because Chisorra fought extremely ****** - he didn't protect himself at all. He was so wild and tried to bully Haye with some funny looking punches - if he fought properly how he fought Vitali no way Haye would KO him.

Third - Haye doesn't throw combos against big fighters. He run around springing occasional big punches.

Forth - Wlad's punching power is superior to Haye's.


Verdict = haye takes UD in boring fight copy-pasted fight against Valuev.

[elfag]

wlad would have stopped him if he wasnt a head hunter and actually followed up when he stunned him instead of holding. Wlad used to be one of my favorite fighters before he got with steward, he is so boring now, Wach is slow as hell and is a terrible fighter, theres no excuse for a heavyweight of wlads talent not to be able to stop him.

Wlad isnt versatile, that is his whole problem. If he cant get the stoppage one way, mix it up and go to the body and get it that way but he doesnt know how to go to the body and he doesnt care about getting the KO in fights where he is shutting out all of the rounds.

[SaintGeorge]

Wach who ate massive shots all night and offered absolutely zero movement (foot or head) would be decapitated by Haye. Wlad threw the 1,2 backed off for 20 seconds and done it again, the way you get rid of someone with a decent chin is 4 or 5 punch combinations and different variations.

People like to hate on Haye, probably because he's a massive talker, why should he go in there and have a slug fest with someone who's twice his size? If he strepped it up a bit against Valuev he would have knocked him out, a combination between his hand injury and expectant cautiousness but that to bed. If you know you could win the world heavyweight championship safely against a monster why would you risk getting knocked out?

As for Haye not being a monster puncher, you need to re-evaluate the situation. He's an absolutely huge puncher.

[Joeyzagz]

Give Haye 121 shots at Wach's chin, Wach would be in a morgue.

[Simurgh]

Give Haye 121 shots at Wach's chin, Wach would be in a morgue.

I would surprise if he would land more than 40...

Cautious Wach with his guard up walks through Haye's punches all night long...