Comments Thread For: Photos: Wladimir Klitschko Beats Down Wach in Hamburg

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

No, due to the dominant nature and longevity of his superior reign as champ. For unifying all but 1 of the major belts and destroying all competition on his way to the top. For writing boxing history, together with his brother.
AND, due to the fact that he is simply THAT GOOD, and that he would give any champ in history a run for his money.

That's not a good enough reason for boxing experts., like my self.

[Weltschmerz]

That's not a good enough reason for boxing experts., like my self.

If you were a 'boxing expert', you would know that greatness is not all resumes, name dropping and living nostalgically in the past. And you'd give Wlad his due credit as an ATG.

[LacedUp]

See, its guys like you that turn boxing fans against Wlad. You don't represent Wlad in the least. I'm sure even he would argue Ali was the greatest of all time. Wlads not an idiot.

Exactly. I like Wlad as a person - but as a fighter in the top ATG you need something more. And you also need to have beaten the linear champ which he hasn't. He's not in my top20 but somewhere around bottom of top25. Maybe he's a victim of circumstance - but that won't change. Plus I don't think he'd be a major player in the 50s 70s or 90s.

[ShoulderRoll]

No, due to the dominant nature and longevity of his superior reign as champ.

Lucian Bute had a dominant reign as champ, with 9 title defenses.

But it's easy to dominate against poor competition. Once he stepped up against a real opponent we saw his real worth.

Wlad would be in a similar situation against the all-time great heavyweights.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Exactly. I like Wlad as a person - but as a fighter in the top ATG you need something more. And you also need to have beaten the linear champ which he hasn't. He's not in my top20 but somewhere around bottom of top25. Maybe he's a victim of circumstance - but that won't change. Plus I don't think he'd be a major player in the 50s 70s or 90s.

He might have done good in the 50's when HW's were at their smallest, but 60's to 90's had too many chin checkers for a guy with a less than good chin. In boxing, sooner or later you are going to get caught and he's shown he does not handle being hit hard.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

If you were a 'boxing expert', you would know that greatness is not all resumes, name dropping and living nostalgically in the past. And you'd give Wlad his due credit as an ATG.

Dude, Wlad destroys all. What are you talking about?

[Cállate!]

Wlad is good stuff, he continues making his opponents look like clowns. No ones stopping Wlad.

[MARKBNLV]

Wladimir is among the top 5 greatest heavyweights of all time.

Because of pathetic opposition which is not his fault but the fact is the resume is weak and he has losses to Corey Sanders and Lamon Brewster i hold Lewis much higher then both brothers.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

He is the best right now and has been a very respectable HW champion. Both him and his brother.

[Weltschmerz]

Because of pathetic opposition which is not his fault but the fact is the resume is weak and he has losses to Corey Sanders and Lamon Brewster i hold Lewis much higher then both brothers.

The level of opposition doesn't change the fact that he has a stellar overall skill set, which together with his size and power would trouble any past champ. Lewis had a couple defeats too and was KO'd cold by Hasim Rahman, doesn't make him less of an ATG. Well most champs had their defeats.