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  • #41
    Originally posted by tracylee
    Look, for me personally, JMM is the draw. But, it takes two to put on a great fight, period. Either one of them in the ring by themselves would look pretty silly shadow boxing, and I dont think anybody would pay to see that.
    I will give both fighters credit and say that its both of them and their last fight that draws peoples interest..not just one of them. Together they made a fantastic 'first fight', and I expect the rematch to be similar (minus the knockdowns)

    According to your question, the majority said JMM was the reason, and almost everyone (almost, I said) that picked Manny are his die-hard fans...(most of you have a part of his name in your user name..so do you really count?)

    Oh, I also think its amusing that you'd start an acual thread on this issue cause I posted that JMM had alot of American fans
    Larry Merchant put it best when he said that the 3 knockdowns in the first round made the drama that we've watched.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by tracylee
      To say that JMM got famous cause of Pac is rediculous! just cause you werent a fan doesnt mean he wasnt well known in the States. And what's this about his style being for *******?
      God, it's called BOXING!!! Having natural born skill and talent, and knowing how to use them just makes him a great technician...nothing ***** about that at all. Not all of us watch boxing just for knockouts...some of us like to see a true technician ply his craft, and I'm no ***** for it either.
      I think it's sad that some of you cant pump Manny up without putting JMM down. Both are good fighters that bring something different to the table...so putting JMM down to brag about your boy is really not necessary, and calling a true BOXERS style "*****" gives the impression that you dont know a thing about boxing (other than knockouts, that is)
      nice post tracy, but i have to disagree with you that jmm was famous here in the states...he was a virtual unknown even in mexico before he was fitted against pac. btw, there are also pac "nuthuggers" (as some people put it) who don't put jmm down and are only defending pac and sharing their opinions/views about the topic.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by m00ks
        Larry Merchant put it best when he said that the 3 knockdowns in the first round made the drama that we've watched.
        And don't forget how jmm miraculously rose from the ashes to make the fight a real thriller (or else the jmm fanatics will cry foul)....

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Munn
          Totally agree that Pac and JMM's styles make this rematch very exciting, not just Pac and not just Marquez. They are contrasts in style, but both are effective. One style must yield to the other.

          No disrespect Janno. Good to see that at least one Pac fan can give Marquez props for his performance. However, I don't expect Marquez at 31-yrs age will be suddenly "old" in the rematch. Both Pac and Marquez have never been to war like they did in Fight #1. One war won't make either of them old quickly. The rematch shouldn't either.

          Regarding "predictability", we'll have to talk again after Feb 26 and see what actually happens. My prediction is JMM will have more tools in his box than Manny and will out-point him. I expect Fight of The Year.
          no problem my friend...we just see things differently from another angle. it's good to have good debates about boxers we like without disrespecting each other and our fighters...but then again...i believe in pac's abilities as a fighter. i agree that he still has a lot to improve and i bet he can do that under the watchful eye of freddie roach.

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          • #45
            am gonna see this fight coz of pacman. but they're right, its more of both of them that makes this match more exciting. am excited to see if JMM has something more to give other than his boxing skills. coz one thing for sure, pacman will be coming in with a lot of surprises and i can bet that JMM will kiss the canvas again (no disrespect). am also excited to see up to what extent will pac show the big difference of his fight when he was handicaped and when he's not. i dont think there will be excuses this time. there's only one way i see JMM can win this match. that is again through administrative gifts and by throwing low blows and elbows. am 100% sure that JMM will not be showing a good clean fight (no disrespect just based on previous facts). peace.

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            • #46
              I am watching pac because he clearly is the more explosive of the two, however I do believe he will not win this fight jmm is going to be the better boxer in the ring and his heart is clearly big enough to keep him going ifhe runs into a little trouble, which means that pac is going to have ti kill jmm to win and he might just get ko'd late if he goes all out. truth be told I am rooting for both fighters and hope we have a rivalry brewing

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              • #47
                Originally posted by m00ks
                Larry Merchant put it best when he said that the 3 knockdowns in the first round made the drama that we've watched.
                Oh yeah, Larry Merchant says alot of things, some make sense, most dont, and I doubt that he remembers the majority of them when he's sober the next day.
                Thats cool...all of you keep giving pac all the credit..thats fine with me. I know what I know, and that is that its impossible to sell tickets to a one man event, so it takes two to put on a fight.
                Regardless of what some of you claim, JMM had plenty of fans here in the states long before Pac..that is just the truth. You dont have to like it, but I'm sorry to tell you that Pac DID NOT make the mans career (or his name)..that is an insult to him and all the hard work he's done over the years, no matter how you dice it.

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                • #48
                  def for both of them
                  but im rooten for
                  Juan Manuel "Dinamita" Márquez
                  but like some one else said
                  it takes two to make a great fight

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                  • #49
                    I actually started this thread knowing that it takes two to tango, this will be a very exiting and very explosive fight. For me Pacman met his match agaisnt JMM and I am expecting nothing less than their previous fight. It is an explosive combination that you don't know when it will explode. But another question which may irritate some of you here, will you watch JMM/Salido2 or JMM/Pacman2?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by tracylee
                      Look, for me personally, JMM is the draw. But, it takes two to put on a great fight, period. Either one of them in the ring by themselves would look pretty silly shadow boxing, and I dont think anybody would pay to see that.
                      I will give both fighters credit and say that its both of them and their last fight that draws peoples interest..not just one of them. Together they made a fantastic 'first fight', and I expect the rematch to be similar (minus the knockdowns)

                      According to your question, the majority said JMM was the reason, and almost everyone (almost, I said) that picked Manny are his die-hard fans...(most of you have a part of his name in your user name..so do you really count?)

                      Oh, I also think its amusing that you'd start an acual thread on this issue cause I posted that JMM had alot of American fans
                      I do respect you opinion that people will watch PAC-JMM 2 to see them fight, it really takes two to Tango...

                      But to say JMM is the draw, IMHO that's funny, I will watch Pac fight Salido and I am sure I will be entertained, how about you Tracy you want to see or spend money on JMM-Salido2 ???

                      he he he ...

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