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  • #21
    JMM is a future all time great, i like Pac, but i like to see the mad skills of JMM more

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    • #22
      I hope it won't be on PPV. The only thing that surprised me about the first fight were the fireworks in the 1st and 2nd rd. provided by Pac. The 2nd one will be probably be a borefest. Marquez should look even more dominant in this rematch.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Munn
        True. Like the Champion he is, he has learned from his tough fight with Pac. But this is nothing unique because, like any true Champ, Marquez has become tougher and better with each fighter he faces. Like any solid Champ, Marquez will respond to the calibre of fighter in front of him. He definitely underestimated Pac's speed and power and paid early in Fight #1. Marquez's ability to adjust was apparent in Round 2 through 12, when Pac's combined power, stamina and speed could not overwhelm the Champ.

        Marquez has proven himself very capable of bringing a completely adjusted approach to any fight. The Pac rematch will be no exception and, as you said, Marquez will not be the same. Manny on the other hand will bring the same style that got him where he is, partly because he cannot adjust, but mostly because he has always depended on simply overpowering and outlasting his opponents with these basic but very effective skills. This makes him quite predictable because of his methodic head movement and dependency on a limited tool box.

        Pac says he's studied Marquez, and vise-versa. Difference is, Marquez will show that a Champion truly learns from his studies.
        the same thing can be said of pac...pac brings his game on the level of his opponent and always came out on top...from his masterful beating of barrera, putting the boxer/counterpuncher ledwaba to near retirement, showing nadel hussein and agapito sanchez their dirty tactics wouldn't work, toying with a thai wannabe and teaching marquez he couldn't bully a speedster and a powerful fighter in him. pac (as you may not know) is a very smart fighter, he learns fast and listens to roach. these two is the best dynamic duo in boxing today and their respect for each other and chemistry will work wonders for the world to see.

        pac is not dimensional in any way form or appearance if you really pay attention to all his fights. he may have looked one-dimesional against jmm, but it was because of a half-baked plan his team brought into the fight and his limited mobility after round 2. any trainer, i guess i would advise his ward to do the same. if you have a copy of the fight, if you watch again the start of round 6 when roach was talking to manny and if you listen carefully, manny told roach..."i hurt my foot!".

        after all were said and done and the dust settled, i see a victorious pacman vanquishing another champion to his knee!
        Last edited by JaNnO; 01-07-2005, 11:54 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by beeatch!
          JMM is a future all time great, i like Pac, but i like to see the mad skills of JMM more

          JMM is 31yrs old and for a featherweight thats pretty old.I think JMM is already starting to fade.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by jpboxer3
            JMM is 31yrs old and for a featherweight thats pretty old.I think JMM is already starting to fade.


            not necessarily, guys like him who depend on their technique can have long careers. JMM hasn't taken much punishment, i think he can go on for a while, at least long enough to fight Barrera and have some more money fights

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            • #26
              Pacquiao in 10 woooootttt!!!

              10 minutes wooooootttt!!

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              • #27
                Originally posted by JaNnO
                the same thing can be said of pac...pac brings his game on the level of his opponent and always came out on top...from his masterful beating of barrera, putting the boxer/counterpuncher ledwaba to near retirement, showing nadel hussein and agapito sanchez their dirty tactics wouldn't work, toying with a thai wannabe and teaching marquez he couldn't bully a speedster and a powerful fighter in him. pac (as you may not know) is a very smart fighter, he learns fast and listens to roach. these two is the best dynamic duo in boxing today and their respect for each other and chemistry will work wonders for the world to see.

                pac is not dimensional in any way form or appearance if you really pay attention to all his fights. he may have looked one-dimesional against jmm, but it was because of a half-baked plan his team brought into the fight and his limited mobility after round 2. any trainer, i guess would advise his ward to do the same. if you have a copy of the fight, i guess you watch again the start of round 6 when roach was talking to manny and if you listen carefully, manny told roach..."i hurt my foot!".

                after all were said and done and the dust settled, i see a victorious pacman vanquishing another champion to his knee!

                I agree.I really dont see this fight being that close because JMM is fading and Pacmans is in his prime,so I expect Pacman to make minor adjustments and KO JMM within 4rds this time around.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by JaNnO
                  the same thing can be said of pac...pac brings his game on the level of his opponent and always came out on top...from his masterful beating of barrera, putting the boxer/counterpuncher ledwaba to near retirement, showing nadel hussein and agapito sanchez their dirty tactics wouldn't work, toying with a thai wannabe and teaching marquez he couldn't bully a speedster ......

                  "i hurt my foot!"
                  Now I understand why Pac couldn't "vanquish" Marquez ....... it was his foot. Man, you Pac fans have a hard time giving Marquez any credit. Face it, Pac couldn't finish what he started in the first round because Marquez realized he needed to fight Manny with everything he had, but only after being shocked in Round 1.

                  Pac smacking Ledwaba around was a real surpirse and awakening for me, but mentioning Hussein, Sanchez, and 3K does not impress many boxing fans. Marquez showed in Fight #1 that he's leagues ahead of those guys.

                  Your'e right. Manny has speed and power. But, he shows it with the same combo each time he comes to you, offering the same head and shoulders movement. Re-wind Marquez, Lebwada and 3K if you need to see that Pac is Mr. Predictable. It's Pacs speed that overcomes these deficits, but a truly durable and skilled, adjustabe fighter like Marquez won't be troubled again by the same ole' PacMan. Pac better bring something new on Feb 26.

                  Believe Janno, I don't hate Pac. I just don't like his chances after having Marquez "beaten" in Round #1 but wasn't able to capitalize, even though he was so damned fresh and still connecting. Marquez is the boxer/fighter that can take Pac's **** and beat him.

                  Marquez, late stoppage or wide UD.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Munn
                    Now I understand why Pac couldn't "vanquish" Marquez ....... it was his foot. Man, you Pac fans have a hard time giving Marquez any credit. Face it, Pac couldn't finish what he started in the first round because Marquez realized he needed to fight Manny with everything he had, but only after being shocked in Round 1.

                    Pac smacking Ledwaba around was a real surpirse and awakening for me, but mentioning Hussein, Sanchez, and 3K does not impress many boxing fans. Marquez showed in Fight #1 that he's leagues ahead of those guys.

                    Your'e right. Manny has speed and power. But, he shows it with the same combo each time he comes to you, offering the same head and shoulders movement. Re-wind Marquez, Lebwada and 3K if you need to see that Pac is Mr. Predictable. It's Pacs speed that overcomes these deficits, but a truly durable and skilled, adjustabe fighter like Marquez won't be troubled again by the same ole' PacMan. Pac better bring something new on Feb 26.

                    Believe Janno, I don't hate Pac. I just don't like his chances after having Marquez "beaten" in Round #1 but wasn't able to capitalize, even though he was so damned fresh and still connecting. Marquez is the boxer/fighter that can take Pac's **** and beat him.

                    Marquez, late stoppage or wide UD.
                    i give credit where credit is due...marquez survived fight #1 coz of his boxing skills and heart and almost took the fight away from pacman. i admire him for not giving up and putting a superb performance. i understand, it's very easy to love a fighter with great boxing skills and a counterpuncher who can time his opponent because he looks graceful/masterful...but the thing is...those don't necessarily win fights when he goes up in the ring against an opponent.

                    style makes fight. there are fighters who don't move like a boxer and posseses an effective style and excellent physical attributes that are more than enuff to win most of the fights. manny is one example...get my drift?

                    besides jmm already is 31yo and has fought the best fight of his life vs. pacman who is young, only 26yo ,energetic and still has a lot to learn and to improve upon.

                    on feb 26th, you will see a much improved pac vs. the predictable and passive counter-puncher jmm. i will take pacman anytime against jmm, but that doesn't mean i'm disrespecting jmm...am i?
                    Last edited by JaNnO; 01-08-2005, 10:47 AM.

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                    • #30
                      Pac is the more exciting fighter. So I guess if I had a choice, it would be him.

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