In your honest opinion who "scared" Floyd the most?

[maguirre]

What big dunn can't accept is that all these past conflicts in the negotiations whether official or via media, ie, what or who offered what, etc. no longer matters. It's been confirmed by Floyd's best friend that Floyd is truly scared of Pac. These blame game discussions are no longer relevant.

The thread is about which fighter scared Floyd the most.

[The Big Dunn]

I can offer you a million to kill yourself.. don't mean it means anything because I know you wont do it.

this is a ****** extreme example that still doesn't address the question I aksed:

was what I posted true? of course it was. unequivically, 100% TRUE

I have no idea Manny wasn't going to take $40 mil because it didn't include ppv revenue. Yes we all expect the fight to sell huge. I along with most said the offer wasn't great because the numbers suggest manny deserves about 30-35%.

That said, Manny turned down more then a $12 mil increase in salary. He had the option to accept or decline. He turned it down over money, which is why he turns down floyd every time. Manny wants more than he deserves and floyd isn't going to give it to him.

I have no problem with that because THAT IS EXACTLY HOW MANNY TREATS HIS OPPONENTS!!

[The Big Dunn]

What big dunn can't accept is that all these past conflicts in the negotiations whether official or via media, ie, what or who offered what, etc. no longer matters. It's been confirmed by Floyd's best friend that Floyd is truly scared of Pac. These blame game discussions are no longer relevant.

The thread is about which fighter scared Floyd the most.

YES IT IS AND THE ANSWER is no one. But shade and I were discussing the topic and alibata jumped in questioning a true fact, which is something you, he and the rest of manny's fringe birther fanbase does regularly.

[ALG United]

this is a ****** extreme example that still doesn't address the question I aksed:

was what I posted true? of course it was. unequivically, 100% TRUE

I have no idea Manny wasn't going to take $40 mil because it didn't include ppv revenue. Yes we all expect the fight to sell huge. I along with most said the offer wasn't great because the numbers suggest manny deserves about 30-35%.

That said, Manny turned down more then a $12 mil increase in salary. He had the option to accept or decline. He turned it down over money, which is why he turns down floyd every time. Manny wants more than he deserves and floyd isn't going to give it to him.

I have no problem with that because THAT IS EXACTLY HOW MANNY TREATS HIS OPPONENTS!!

What a moron... just to make it simple for you kid to understand, Floyd's last fight with Cotto gave him around 35-40mill tops, this fight with Manny will generate for them a potential 150-200mill in revenue and Manny deserves only 40mill out of that??!! And Floyd as you said deserves to get 110-160mill of that money... WTF is that??!! Floyd won't be earning 110mill even if he fights Canelo and Sergio at the same night!!! WTF!!! It takes two fighters to make a fight, and it takes two superstars to make a superfight, be fair to both of them kid!!!

[The Big Dunn]

What a moron... just to make it simple for you kid to understand, Floyd's last fight with Cotto gave him around 35-40mill tops, this fight with Manny will generate for them a potential 150-200mill in revenue and Manny deserves only 40mill out of that??!! And Floyd as you said deserves to get 110-160mill of that money... WTF is that??!! Floyd won't be earning 110mill even if he fights Canelo and Sergio at the same night!!! WTF!!! It takes two fighters to make a fight, and it takes two superstars to make a superfight, be fair to both of them kid!!!

The key word is potential. so you refute my point not with facts, but with well if the fight generates $200 mil (which would mean it sold at or above 3.75 mil ppv's which no fight in history has been within 1.3 mil of this) then Manny gets screwed if he only gets $40 mil.

and I NEVER said floyd deserves 110-160 mil. I said the numbers show manny should get anywhere from 30-35%

how about you at least make a plausible argument based on something tangible, not just arguing the extremes.

[GUEVARA]

how can floyd fans devote themselves to defending him 24/7 day after day. that's just sad

Their mentality is, a criticism on floyd is a personal attack on them.

Some moderate floyd fans are actually distancing themselves like the blood boxing guy because these flowmos are ridiculous.

[ALG United]

The key word is potential. so you refute my point not with facts, but with well if the fight generates $200 mil (which would mean it sold at or above 3.75 mil ppv's which no fight in history has been within 1.3 mil of this) then Manny gets screwed if he only gets $40 mil.

and I NEVER said floyd deserves 110-160 mil. I said the numbers show manny should get anywhere from 30-35%

how about you at least make a plausible argument based on something tangible, not just arguing the extremes.

What numbers are you talking about??!! Recent numbers showed his worth against nobody's and it gave him around 20-22mill, against Marquez he got around 32-36mill, ofcourse Manny didn't get 40mill yet just because he hasn't fight Floyd yet... And so thus with Floyd, his recent fight with Cotto made him around 40-45mill, BUT he will not get anything more than that just because he is not fighting Manny.. Now are you getting what i'm saying?!! I'm not going into extremes, even if this fight could only generate 110-130mill, 40mill of that is still not being fair!!!

[The Big Dunn]

What numbers are you talking about??!! Recent numbers showed his worth against nobody's and it gave him around 20-22mill, against Marquez he got around 32-36mill, ofcourse Manny didn't get 40mill yet just because he hasn't fight Floyd yet... And so thus with Floyd, his recent fight with Cotto made him around 40-45mill, BUT he will not get anything more than that just because he is not fighting Manny.. Now are you getting what i'm saying?!! I'm not going into extremes, even if this fight could only generate 110-130mill, 40mill of that is still not being fair!!!

Respectfully, manny has never earned more than $28 mil for a fight. And yes I understood your point. I don't agree and here is why.

floyd's purse will be both as promoter and fighter, based on the way his deal is structured. Manny is a TR employee and his purse is just as a fighter (if he does get any promoter money it isn't as great as floyd or TR). So when we talk about floyd getting more, its not just becuase of deal split but also how manny's TR deal is structured. Can we agree on this?

I dont think floyd is responsible to give manny more on the deal split to offset the gap created by their different deals.

[Bullrider]

Respectfully, manny has never earned more than $28 mil for a fight. And yes I understood your point. I don't agree and here is why.

floyd's purse will be both as promoter and fighter, based on the way his deal is structured. Manny is a TR employee and his purse is just as a fighter (if he does get any promoter money it isn't as great as floyd or TR). So when we talk about floyd getting more, its not just becuase of deal split but also how manny's TR deal is structured. Can we agree on this?

I dont think floyd is responsible to give manny more on the deal split to offset the gap created by their different deals.

This guy keeps admitting Floyd is not interested in the fight. I don't know why he's still arguing.

[The Big Dunn]

This guy keeps admitting Floyd is not interested in the fight. I don't know why he's still arguing.

because my argument is both floyd and manny want the fight but manny keeps refusing over dollar amount