In your honest opinion who "scared" Floyd the most?

[elfag]

well cotto just arrived at 147 but margarito was ranked #2 in 2002, #3 in 2003, #1 in 2004, #1 in 2005, #1 in 2006 but he was a nobody? baldomir the lineal journeyman came out of nowhere with 1 win then went back to nowhere just as quickly. sign of a great fighter. you thought a journeyman was the best welterweight?

Baldomir was Floyds last fight under Arum, after that he left for DLH at 154 which is back to my original point several posts above. So basically what we are arguing is you think Floyd ducked margarito by facing the lineal champion and that facing the lineal champion was a bad decision. You said it yourself margarito was at welter for years, but yet he never became lineal...

In progression of wins it went DLH>Mosley>forest>Mayorga>Spinks>Judah>baldo

Margarito was there the entire time but never got in the mix. Floyd had only 3 fights at welterweight before going up to 154. Floyd was set to face judah in his second fight at welterweight and had to push the fight for the title off to his 3rd fight. Margo was there for years and never fought for that title.

Floyd won that title, looked at arums offer of $8 million for the margarito fight, asked for $10 million for that fight, which arum wouldnt give him, then exercised his buy out right in his contract to pay arum like 100k to get out and go to 154 to fight DLH for $20 Million

[Vasyl’s dad]

Cotto had a chance to fight floyd at 140 and declined. Baldomir was the LINEAL CHAMPION when floyd fought him and was a bigger win than either cotto or margarito. Cotto wasnt big until he beat Shane in a close decision, Margo wasnt big until he beat Cotto. AFTER floyd already left Arum to make big boy money with DLH at 154.

Put it this way, Floyd beat DLH at 154, nobody is picking either Cotto or Margo to have been able to do that.

"Belts don't matter"-2007, and Baldomir was never big and neither were Corley or Brusseles or Ortiz. Margarito destroys dlh at any weight. Its why Oscar and the welterweight division didn't want any piece of him.

[Frank Ducketts]

Agree. Floyd was visibly flustered when asked about Margarito.

Yeah, Floyd could beat him. I think he thought it too risky.

Baldy beat exactly 1 guy and 2 good ones total, to earn his lineal.

Margs was the threat Floyd didn't want.

Gtfooh, lmao. Margarito was an Arum stooge who was told to ask Floyd for a fight because Arum wanted to see Floyd get beat before Floyd left TR. Arum could not guarantee big fights in the future for Floyd and wanted options on future Floyd fights when Floyd almost agreed to fight Margarito. This is Arums own words from his own mouth. Margarito was never built like that.

[ironmike2012]

He avoided Paul Williams and Margarito, then Manny ever since those two got beat.

[Vasyl’s dad]

SRL was scared ****less of Hagler you fool. Go watch the espn special documentary thing on their fight. And during their fight when Hagler taunted him to stand and fight with him and stop running around the ring like a *****, SRL said "no way." SRL didn't even win that fight even though Hagler had a bad strategy, trying to box for a bunch of rounds. Dundee would call 30 seconds at end of the round, SRL would do some flashy flurries, after losing the rest of the round, then the judges would give it to him.

but at least SRL did fight those guys, since 130 lbs Floyd has ducked all his biggest challenges.

Yea but at least Floyd fought Marquez after Juan called him out on a live ppv interview!

[daggum]

Baldomir was Floyds last fight under Arum, after that he left for DLH at 154 which is back to my original point several posts above. So basically what we are arguing is you think Floyd ducked margarito by facing the lineal champion and that facing the lineal champion was a bad decision. You said it yourself margarito was at welter for years, but yet he never became lineal...

In progression of wins it went DLH>Mosley>forest>Mayorga>Spinks>Judah>baldo

Margarito was there the entire time but never got in the mix. Floyd had only 3 fights at welterweight before going up to 154. Floyd was set to face judah in his second fight at welterweight and had to push the fight for the title off to his 3rd fight. Margo was there for years and never fought for that title.

first of all being lineal does not make you boxing jesus. zsolt erdei alert. are you gonna defend how great he was next? the lineage also loses it's super powers when the people holding the lineage refuse to fight the best. margarito was the best for 3 plus years and mayorga, spinks, judah, baldomir, and floyd all refused to fight him. "linear" champion just become some hollow platitude that sounds cool to dumb fans but means very little when you refuse to fight the #1 contender for years.

[Vasyl’s dad]

baldomir was the guy to beat at 147, go look up the timelines on boxrec because you werent paying much attention in those days. Cotto and margarito were nobodies at 147 at that time.

So what were Sosa, brusseles and ndou? Ppv headliners?

[Frank Ducketts]

"Belts don't matter"-2007, and Baldomir was never big and neither were Corley or Brusseles or Ortiz. Margarito destroys dlh at any weight. Its why Oscar and the welterweight division didn't want any piece of him.

Dlh would've beat the **** out of Margarito. You clowns are really overrating Margarito nowadays. Dlh went tooth and nail with elite fighters and Margarito beat one guy who he possibly beat by using plastered wraps/gauze, lmfao!

[elfag]

"Belts don't matter"-2007, and Baldomir was never big and neither were Corley or Brusseles or Ortiz. Margarito destroys dlh at any weight. Its why Oscar and the welterweight division didn't want any piece of him.

Its not a belt, its the lineal title, which is for legacy.

When has DLH EVER in his career had trouble with a guy with no defense? DLH would SLAUGHTER margarito with his left hook.

Oscar left welterweight around 2001 without looking it up. Magarito was a nobody. Again he never got in the mix of the guys at the top and the lineal title, if he was so good he should have fought mosley and forrest back then but he wasnt at that level then and you damn well know it.

There was no talk from Arum about Floyd-Margarito in 2005-2006, when Arum promoted them both. It wasnt until after floyd declined his offer and left to make more money that Arum started throwing out the crys of floyd ducking margarito when he really left to face a bigger, better fighter for more money.

Margaritos own mother would know she'd be lying if she rated margarito better than DLH.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Floyd fought Judah in april 2006, Baldomir in November.

Cotto fought Paulie M in june 2006 at 140 and Quintana at 147 in december


Baldomir was lineal and Cotto had not even had a single fight yet at welterweight. You guys are so ****ing ******ed.

Floyd's LAST fight at 140 was in 2005 against Gatti, with Cotto ringside when they both were under Arum. Cotto said no way to a floyd fight then. Hatton's trainer also said openly he wasnt ready for floyd, so floyd moved up to 147 to face judah for the lineal title, judah lost his stay busy fight so floyd fought them both.

******ed?
How many fights did Marquez have at welter when he faced Floyd? How many at 140?