Is there not a case for Wladamir to be p4p#1?

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  • eurochamp
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    #61
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Mike Tyson was at one point.
    If Tyson was #1 how can Wladamir not be?He has a better run,his 6 year win streak is longer than Tyson's relevant career.

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    • eurochamp
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      #62
      Originally posted by Stokely
      I've got a good idea. Why don't we all go and spit on Sugar Ray Robinson's grave?

      Oh wait. . . . . . it's seems like somebody already has.

      My bad. Do carry on.
      What does Sugar Ray Robinson have to do with this thread at all?

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      • gmc_rfc_06
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        #63
        No.

        P4P is about talent; taking away height/weight advantages and making everyone even, then it comes purely down to talent. Wlad is great largely because of his height/weight advantages, without them he wouldn't do very well.

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        • HardSpar
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          #64
          I don't think so, he's king of a ***** weight class.

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            #65
            Originally posted by eurochamp
            What does Sugar Ray Robinson have to do with this thread at all?
            That right there, is my point exactly.

            But please do carry on enlightening us as to why Wladimir Klitschko is the rightful heir to the title 'Pound For Pound'.

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              #66
              Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
              No.

              P4P is about talent; taking away height/weight advantages and making everyone even, then it comes purely down to talent. Wlad is great largely because of his height/weight advantages, without them he wouldn't do very well.
              Well Wach is taller,bigger and has longer reach. So i guess he will have to win this fight on Talent right? Valuev was 7 feet why wasn't he THE champ like Wladamir?

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                #67
                Originally posted by Stokely
                That right there, is my point exactly.

                But please do carry on enlightening us as to why Wladimir Klitschko is the rightful heir to the title 'Pound For Pound'.
                I am talking p4p of current fighters man,no one is talking ALL TIME here,please read before posting.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by HardSpar
                  I don't think so, he's king of a ***** weight class.
                  As someone else stated Tyson was once p4p#1 and his era was just as bad.
                  Plus Martinez is ranked as high as #3 by some people and Middleweight is a bad division as well.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by eurochamp
                    Well Wach is taller,bigger and has longer reach. So i guess he will have to win this fight on Talent right? Valuev was 7 feet why wasn't he THE champ like Wladamir?
                    Wach isn't good, that's why.

                    Wlad has those physical advantages and is good on top of that. However, when we're talking talent and removing physical advantages, Wach is hardly a Mayweather, Ward or Martinez...

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by eurochamp
                      I am talking p4p of current fighters man,no one is talking ALL TIME here,please read before posting.
                      I know exactly what you're talking about. It's just a shame that you don't.

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