Jones Jr. broken legacy?

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  • unity768
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    Jones Jr. broken legacy?

    Everybody keeps saying that roy jones is damaging his legacy b/c he continues to fight. I totally disagree. Evander Holyfeild hasnt won a fight since 2002 and now his record stands at 38-8. Why dont people talk about Holyfeild ruining his legacy? Everybody has holyfeild (including me) on the top heavyweights of all time list. Roberto Duran is still on peoples all times list and he has 19 loses! Anyone wanna comment on this?
  • Bozo_no no
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    People like to talk non sense.

    Ray Robinson lost 6 fights in his last year fighting, and to unknown and poor opposition.

    Look at Ray Leonard's last fights with Norris and Camacho...

    Ali agaisnt Holmes and Berbick...


    It doesn't matter. Great fighters don't know when to quit, and years later, are remembered for what made them great. Not what came on their way down.

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    • Super_Lightweight
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      #3
      hmm

      Basically, this whole movement by some fringe people that Roy's legacy is "ruined" is a facade for their hate of Roy Jones. Roy is an all time great, like it, love it, or hate it. You don't judge a fighter by what happens to them at the end of their career.

      Maxim TKO Robinson
      Holmes TKO Ali
      Morrison UD Foreman
      Marciano KO Louis
      Norris pwn3age Leonard
      Joppy TKO Duran

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      • DiegoFuego
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        #4
        Well, what did Roy really do in his career...? I mean he has two killer wins against Hopkins and Toney, but that was long before he was exposed as having no chin. He never fought the "other" Light Heavyweight most people wanted to see him fight, even though I was on Roy's side for not going to Germany. But still...what did Roy really do that was so great? I think he's fun as hell to watch, but he didn't exactly prove all the naysayers wrong...ever...

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        • Super_Lightweight
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          #5
          hmm

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          • Bozo_no no
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            #6
            Originally posted by DiegoFuego
            Well, what did Roy really do in his career...? I mean he has two killer wins against Hopkins and Toney, but that was long before he was exposed as having no chin. He never fought the "other" Light Heavyweight most people wanted to see him fight, even though I was on Roy's side for not going to Germany. But still...what did Roy really do that was so great? I think he's fun as hell to watch, but he didn't exactly prove all the naysayers wrong...ever...

            He beat 16 current or former world champions, beat James Toney and Bernard Hopkins, won titles at 160, 168, 175, Heavyweight at 175 again, and dominated the pound for pound rankings for about 7 years rarely losing a round.

            I have no problem with you Diego, but when you're motiviated by pure spite for a fighter you don't like, you make useless and ignorant posts.

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            • oldgringo
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              He's not ruining his legacy...he's just pissing people off who don't want to see him fight anymore.

              For me he's like Brett Favre...just leave the ****ing game already. You were great and had an amazing career, just move the **** on.

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              • DiegoFuego
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                Look, I think Roy is amazingly skilled, but he knew he couldn't **** with the big boys so he never tried. First time he went up against a guy I considered a big puncher that was also a skilled fighter, he got beat up. Then he got knocked out. I mean, if Roy had fought guys like DM and beat them, I would be like you guys and say Roy lost to Tarver cuz he's old or out of his prime or whatever (even though his speed is still there, which means his punch is still there) But the point is he didn't. He beat Toney who was the #1 guy in boxing at the time and he sat on his perch for 10 years. Floyd Mayweather has already started a career that will easily surpass Roy's. Mayweather beat Chavez, Corrales, and Castillo (twice), and now he's fighting Judah! I hate Floyd as a person and I love Roy as far as being smart about boxing goes, but Roy doesn't take risks, even compared to guys like Mayweather. Only now at the end of his career is Roy quick to sign contracts and make fights and milk himself for every penny he's worth, but I will NOT consider him one of the greatest ever. I'm sorry, I just won't do it.

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                • AintGottaClue
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                  #9
                  diego if u mean tarver was roy's first big ****er with skill srry to dissapoint u but he beat tarver in the first fight

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                  • jack_the_rippuh
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                    #10
                    When it comes to things like this you have to ask yourself, how good were the guys the figher (in this case Jones) loss to and would he have unquestionably beat them in his prime.

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