Bloodboxing TOTALLY OBLITERATES Floyd Mayweather Jr. and his REPUGNANT Fanbase

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    #211
    Originally posted by ElBossHogg
    Man I haven't seen that fight in years but it was close to me, I remeber the Mexican in me wanted to say oscar won but the Boxing fan in me said Mayweather won. LOL ill have to watch again but im in no hurry. Blood probably just mad at Mayweather and wants to talk **** and picked that fight to say he lost cause probably has the most creditability beside the castillo fight, I mean if he said he lost to JUdan then 100% of his creditability would be out the window.
    That's fair. There were a lot of competitive rounds in that fight but I thought Floyd was the clear winner.

    The place to attack Mayweather is his opponent selection, the number of fights that didn't happen that should of happened, his "retirement" where he Bute'd the division and the barriers he put in place that have prevented the Pacquiao fight from happening.

    Trying to discredit his "in ring" performances is the wrong place to go because he's handled business and has done what he has had to do against everybody that's been in the ring with him.

    Even if you felt Castillo got him, he manned up and gave him an immediate rematch which you have to respect.

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      #212
      Obviously Mayweather is a cherry picker who retired in his prime instead of proving he was the best I have to say he beat Oscar comfortable but Oscar was well past his prime.

      Obliviously he was well past his prime when he fought Pacman to. The only reason Pac gets any credit for the fight was his size which is something all the floyd bum whiffs always want to leave out when crying about Catch weights. If Maynever ever went into his 7-8th weight class I'm sure he would like a catch weight to? Only reason I put this paragraph in Is I know some emotional Floyd stan was going to chime in about Pac when they read it.

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        #213
        Originally posted by negged
        He just said that A LOT of boxing fans thought Oscar won the fight (which is true) and said that he was one of them. It wasn't a big topic. He did mention that Floyd robbed Castillo which is 100% true.

        Everything else he said was spot on.
        He had some other things I disagreed with too. His statement about Floyd not fighting prime elite black opponents, for example.

        Who out there could he have fought besides Stevie Johnston, Paul Williams @ 147 and prime Shane Mosley? I thought that argument was a reach as well.

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          #214
          Originally posted by PBP
          He had some other things I disagreed with too. His statement about Floyd not fighting prime elite black opponents, for example.

          Who out there could he have fought besides Stevie Johnston, Paul Williams @ 147 and prime Shane Mosley? I thought that argument was a reach as well.
          In his latest videos comments, he talks about how Floyd Mayweather ducked Andre Berto, saying that if Berto would have beat Ortiz he wouldn't have fought Berto.

          So maybe that's one of the black fighters he is talking about as well.

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            #215
            Originally posted by BoxingFollower
            In his latest videos comments, he talks about how Floyd Mayweather ducked Andre Berto, saying that if Berto would have beat Ortiz he wouldn't have fought Berto.

            So maybe that's one of the black fighters he is talking about as well.
            Could be. But I would ask when have 2 Al Haymon fighters every been matched against each other?

            And the options now aren't really attractive. I don't think anyone is itching to see Mayweather vs. Alexander, Kirkland, Bradley, Peterson, or even Berto.

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              #216
              Originally posted by PBP
              Could be. But I would ask when have 2 Al Haymon fighters every been matched against each other?

              And the options now aren't really attractive. I don't think anyone is itching to see Mayweather vs. Alexander, Kirkland, Bradley, Peterson, or even Berto.
              In the end Floyd and Pac should have fought Berto, no excuses!

              Berto was the Undefeated, WBC Champ at 147. At Welterweight he was ranked only behind Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio, at number 3.

              And instead they both took other fights..

              Pacquiao fought Margarito
              Pacquiao fought Mosley

              Floyd fought Juan Marquez
              Floyd fought Mosley

              They both took the bigger money fights, instead of getting in there with that young hungry, undefeated lion.

              Bradley or Ortiz wasn't established at 147, but Andre Berto was, regardless of how hyped people think he was.

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                #217
                Originally posted by Goldie
                Well doesn't this prove that everybody is playing the game? Boxing is a business. Don't hate the players hate the game. If you're going to be a crybaby then at least be consistent. Floyd isn't the only one playing the game, he's just the most important player.
                you're missing the point, but then again, I don't expect you to comprehend anything of a logical stand point or from a historical standpoint...

                you can deny, argue, make stuff up, and or complain, it still doesn't change the FACT, that, when floyd was in retirement, better match ups with those who were possible opponents of floyds were made with one another in and around floyds potential weight classes....
                when floyd was out of retirement and back in boxing, actively, fighters WAITED around for a shot, didn't take real risks, and slowed up match making for us fans....

                deny all you want, it's fact, history presents it to us loud and clear....

                you're defending floyd like you're his bed buddy... he don't care about you, he wouldn't pee on your gums if they were on fire.

                besides this isnt' anything to defend the woman beater over, it's fact, it really can't be denied, just fussed over by fanboys....

                you're taking it personal on a different level than I. I take it personal as a fan, as a ticket buyer, as a PPV buyer, as a boxing WRITER, as boxing historian.

                and most fighters don't play that game, most fighters fight whoever is put in front of them by their PROMOTERS, managers, match makers.... and they want to maximize their profits too, and that would be to put your fighter on ice until he can get the biggest payday possible.... that can't be argued, I believe you're saying something similar, but you don't think floyd is the X factor in that equation, which he is......

                floyd on the other hand says he calls all his shots about his career, whether that is really true or not? IDK? but since he says so, placing blame on him for what he does is fair game....

                what other fighters do, it needs to be sussed out, because, like a I said, their managers, promoters, match makers, dictate what they do, and trying to make the biggest **** for their buck, maximizing profits, and getting their percentage..... that is how the game is played, floyd is the beaver dam in match making...

                now as for you, all you can do, is use strawman arguments, logical fallacies, ad hominem's, etc..... bring up a timeline of things, some sort of information, something of substance, so far you have not, I don't believe you can, hence the following... with all due respect, STFU.....
                Last edited by deuce_drop; 11-04-2012, 05:47 PM.

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by BoxingFollower
                  In the end Floyd and Pac should have fought Berto, no excuses!

                  Berto was the Undefeated, WBC Champ at 147. At Welterweight he was ranked only behind Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio, at number 3.

                  And instead they both took other fights..

                  Pacquiao fought Margarito
                  Pacquiao fought Mosley

                  Floyd fought Juan Marquez
                  Floyd fought Mosley

                  They both took the bigger money fights, instead of getting in there with that young hungry, undefeated lion.

                  Bradley or Ortiz wasn't established at 147, but Andre Berto was, regardless of how hyped people think he was.
                  I agree with most of what you're saying. But Floyd vs. Mosley gets too much criticism. This was Rings P4P rankings at the end of '09:

                  Manny Pacquiao
                  Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  Shane Mosley
                  Bernard Hopkins
                  Juan Manuel Marquez
                  Nonito Donaire
                  Miguel Cotto
                  Celestino Caballero
                  Chad Dawson
                  Paul Williams


                  Floyd vs. Mosley was in high demand, especially after his win over Margarito. It was only after that people started to say Mosley was shot and this fight was a mismatch.

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    I agree with most of what you're saying. But Floyd vs. Mosley gets too much criticism. This was Rings P4P rankings at the end of '09:

                    Manny Pacquiao
                    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                    Shane Mosley
                    Bernard Hopkins
                    Juan Manuel Marquez
                    Nonito Donaire
                    Miguel Cotto
                    Celestino Caballero
                    Chad Dawson
                    Paul Williams


                    Floyd vs. Mosley was in high demand, especially after his win over Margarito. It was only after that people started to say Mosley was shot and this fight was a mismatch.
                    You are right, he would have been criticized for not fighting Mosley also.

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by PBP
                      I agree with most of what you're saying. But Floyd vs. Mosley gets too much criticism. This was Rings P4P rankings at the end of '09:

                      Manny Pacquiao
                      Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                      Shane Mosley
                      Bernard Hopkins
                      Juan Manuel Marquez
                      Nonito Donaire
                      Miguel Cotto
                      Celestino Caballero
                      Chad Dawson
                      Paul Williams


                      Floyd vs. Mosley was in high demand, especially after his win over Margarito. It was only after that people started to say Mosley was shot and this fight was a mismatch.
                      Floyd boys like to leave out that he fought Mosley a year and a half after the margarito fight. He didn't jump in the ring with him right after. He probably wouldn't have even fought him at all if it wasn't for that stunt Mosley pulled. I think people say Mosley was shot because he quit fighting after the second round. No denying that. He was prob payed to take a dive cuz he got shook after he almost ko'd floyd with 1 punch and stopped fighting.

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