the Alvarez hate NEEDS to stop.

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  • Ring Leader
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    #11
    Originally posted by SUPREME.
    Saul beats Cotto, K9, Lara, Rosado, Trout and whoever else.

    The guy runs 154.

    If Mayweather thinks he can take a year layoff and face Alvarez he's in trouble. He's not the guy you do that against.

    And whoever says "but Saul wuz hert bai Cotto's brathur" is an idiot.

    That was then and this is now.
    no he doesn't. he just happens to be the second most popular guy in the division. Who has he beat at 154 to solidify his "ruling of the division"?

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #12
      I agree with what you say for the most part, but who cares haters are going to hate it is what they do~ and they just make being correct about a guy that much sweeter.

      So let them hate~ although there is certainly room to give him some legitimate criticism.

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      • kiaba360
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        #13
        Originally posted by Light_Speed
        Kirkland wasn't really a threat to me but Williams was. Even though he got his ass kicked by Lara, stylewise I think he would have been a very difficult opponent. It's a shame the fight didn't happen.

        Canelo fans need to be patient. When he fights and stops Cotto he'll finally get the recognition he deserves from the hardcore fans.
        That would be the first step. Then, he would have to beat the winner of Lara/Vanes. After that, I'd have no qualms about him fighting Floyd.

        Originally posted by SUPREME.
        Saul beats Cotto, K9, Lara, Rosado, Trout and whoever else.

        The guy runs 154.

        If Mayweather thinks he can take a year layoff and face Alvarez he's in trouble. He's not the guy you do that against.

        And whoever says "but Saul wuz hert bai Cotto's brathur" is an idiot.

        That was then and this is now.
        You complain about Canelo receiving hate, but you represent the opposite end of the spectrum. You're showering with him with praise he hasn't even begun to earn yet, already counting the other LMWs out because he passed the eye test. Who's to say that he can't get hurt by a respectable LMW? Who's to say he can withstand a physically and mentally exhausting 12-round affair with a guy who refuses to wither under his power and combinations? He might be good enough that it will never come to that, but I think highly enough of the other LMWs to say that he won't just dominate them.

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          #14
          Originally posted by kiaba360
          That would be the first step. Then, he would have to beat the winner of Lara/Vanes. After that, I'd have no qualms about him fighting Floyd.



          You complain about Canelo receiving hate, but you represent the opposite end of the spectrum. You're showering with him with praise he hasn't even begun to earn yet, already counting the other LMWs out because he passed the eye test. Who's to say that he can't get hurt by a respectable LMW? Who's to say he can withstand a physically and mentally exhausting 12-round affair with a guy who refuses to wither under his power and combinations? He might be good enough that it will never come to that, but I think highly enough of the other LMWs to say that he won't just dominate them.
          Good comment like always...

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          • Angry Cuban
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            #15
            To asure what you saying ( dude is the real deal @ 154) he should fight a top 20 154 pounder or at least a top 300 p4p..I think your bias mind is traveling to far..

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            • julian45
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              #16
              the facts are that his last 8 foes have a combined loss record of 50 fights in his last 8 fights, he has not fought a true 154 pound contender, he has fought welters and jr welters or old shot guys. Does he have promise, yes , has he shown that he can even think of hanging with top p4p guys much less really really good jr middles NO a resounding NO

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              • Zano-24
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                #17
                So far, Canelo is a made fighter. He is always dealt the right opponents. He needs to fight the top fighters in his division and prove himself there. He shouldn't even have been calling out Ortiz nor should he have fought Lopez. 154 has A LOT of options that he chooses to ignore...

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                • Boxing Bob
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SUPREME.
                  Saul beats Cotto, K9, Lara, Rosado, Trout and whoever else.

                  The guy runs 154.

                  If Mayweather thinks he can take a year layoff and face Alvarez he's in trouble. He's not the guy you do that against.

                  And whoever says "but Saul wuz hert bai Cotto's brathur" is an idiot.

                  That was then and this is now.
                  Then why is Golden Boy avoiding these guys? Because they know Canyellow aint the real deal! They're willing to let him get beat for big $$$, but Vanes, K9, Molina, Lara,etc? HELL NO is their answer

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                  • Boxing Bob
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ElBossHogg
                    NSB is a bunch of crybabies.

                    In a few years when Canelo is the face of boxing beating every top fighter out their, people still will be hating talking about this era of his career
                    Same thing you said about Chavez Jr before he was exposed. Same thing here. There's a reason why Golden Boy has kept Canyellow away from credible challengers. 6 title fights and not one top shelf opponent. Criminal

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by kiaba360

                      You complain about Canelo receiving hate, but you represent the opposite end of the spectrum. You're showering with him with praise he hasn't even begun to earn yet, already counting the other LMWs out because he passed the eye test. Who's to say that he can't get hurt by a respectable LMW? Who's to say he can withstand a physically and mentally exhausting 12-round affair with a guy who refuses to wither under his power and combinations? He might be good enough that it will never come to that, but I think highly enough of the other LMWs to say that he won't just dominate them.
                      I can't make predictions? I can't predict that Canelo will tear everyone at 154 up?

                      The guy attempted to fight 3 strong opponents but luck wasn't on his side, so these fights didn't come to fruition.

                      And now he's calling out 3 more tough opponents: Cotto, Martinez and Mayweather.

                      The guy isn't a duck, he's been fighting since a teen, he doesn't fear anyone.

                      He will fight the winner of Vanes/Lara if he's mandated to. No ducking from him.

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