I'm sorry. I just rewatched Wladimir vs Haye. Why all the blame on Haye?

[Mike Haynes]

Ignore the obvious....Wlad jumps on you like a 7 foot spider whenever you get close to him. He should be penalized for excessive holding.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Haye put in more of an effort than Adamek but you never hear anyone question Adamek's effort.

Because Adamek stood there and took punches to the head. He's probably gonna be brain damaged at the end of his career. What a warrior!

[White_Knight]

Haye put in more of an effort than Adamek but you never hear anyone question Adamek's effort.

Adamek never proclaimed himself the "saviour of the heavyweight division". Adamek never said he was going to send his opponent to the hospital. Adamek never wore shirts showing the severed heads of his opponents. Adamek doesn't have an excuse for every one of his losses instead of giving credit to his opponents.

And after all of that tough talk he flops on the floor every 2 seconds in an attempt to get points taken away. He is also stupid enough to think people will believe that a broken pinky toe on the rear foot that has been anaethetised before a fight explains an 8-point loss.

[White_Knight]

Ignore the obvious....Wlad jumps on you like a 7 foot spider whenever you get close to him. He should be penalized for excessive holding.

You could take 4 points away from 95% of Wlad's victories and he would still end up winning.

[elfag]

Haye talked **** for years and backed out of several fights before finally getting into the ring with wlad. All of this talk about KOing wlad and all of his supporters going on about a young heavyweight who wasnt fat and had good speed and KO power who wasnt "boring" because he "took risks" (and talked trash).... and when the fight finally happened Haye ran on the outside and didnt even try to win and came up with one of the lamest excuses in history.

He was supposed to take risks and be explosive and blah blah blah. Wlad already was getting the criticism for being boring BEFORE the fight, so why would he get much more after?

[jknightx]

Yes but in terms of density and weight the difference is huge. Height is only one factor, reaches another, style is another. Haye is not a true heavyweight like most of the guys above, he never properly filled into a heavyweight frame like Holyfield for example. Haye gets by because he is very quick and hits extremely hard, but he is not a stocky strong fighter, he is a lean back foot counter puncher.

actualy Haye is a half inch taller than Holyfield and fights about 2 lbs heavier than Holyfield.

[Superflo777]

Haye is not a true heavyweight like most of the guys above, he never properly filled into a heavyweight frame like Holyfield for example.

You're sure?

[damuttz112]

Haye put in more of an effort than Adamek but you never hear anyone question Adamek's effort.

Haye was initiating quite a few attacks with power-punches. He was just failing. Haye baited more than attacked, it's true, but I think this was more trying and failing than not trying and failing. Adamek was outmatched from the outset and preceded to get pummeled round after round.

[Light_Speed]

Haye was initiating quite a few attacks with power-punches. He was just failing. Haye baited more than attacked, it's true, but I think this was more trying and failing than not trying and failing. Adamek was outmatched from the outset and preceded to get pummeled round after round.

Nah man he didn't try his best, even when he knew he needed a KO he simply decided to play it safe and survive. He didn't fight to win.

[Spray_resistant]

I know its a very very risky strategy but what Haye realistically needed to do to win was be aggressive utilize his speed and power land something solid early hurt Wlad in rds 1-3 not let him get into his normal rhythm and keep him on the back foot where he is ineffective.

Wlad always looks shaky to me early on before he knows he is effectively imposing his style, and Haye never in reality had more than a slim punchers chance early in the fight.