Comments Thread For: Thomas Dulorme Plans To Drop To Junior Welterweight

[DoktorSleepless]

Eh, there was only a two pound difference.

[ELHURACAN58]

because being heavier makes him sturdier.

I think going down will play better to his abilities. First two rounds he dominated Abregu with his distance. As soon as he got caught once he got dropped. I cant imagine what would happen against bigger opposition.

At 140 he might have a chance to be at worst another Amir Khan.

[benjamin2004]

Dropping back down to 140 aint gonna do jack for him if he doesn't fix his flaws and changes his management. People are talking about his corner, but the instructions the corner gave him were on point, he just didn't follow them.

First, he was not supposed to be in there with Abregu, the guy has twice as many fights, has fought at the championship level, and hits like a mule. Dulorme only had 16 fights at the time of the fight, never even fought anybody above C- level let alone championship level. His managament ****ed him over point blank. Shaw-Dibella-Murillo has signed a lot of PR prospects and they feeding them to the wolves as soon as they get a nice purse, for example, Orlandito Del Valle, Pedraza, and now Dulorme. Pedraza survived a reallly good scrap with a little Mexican fighter that landed plenty of punches on him, but could not break an egg. If that would have been anybody else Pedraza would have lost too.

Then on to his flaws, he keeps his arms way too low, pulls straight back with the arms low instead of circling to the sides with the arms up high, also pulls back with his head way up high instead of tucked in, does not go to the body, jumps in when throwing punches, does not put punches together, was circling to Abregu's right hand, becomes too predictable with his jabs because he does not mixes it up to the body and then to the head, does not have waist movement, no bobbing and weaving, depends on his power too much, once he landed on Abregu flush and Abregu didn't even blink you could see in his face he didn't know what to do next, squares off too much. I haven't seen much of him, but at least off of this fight, he did not impress me at all.

I am from PR, born and raised living in the states now, and I've never seen the PR boxing scene so bad, ever. None of these so called "next PR champion" are being taken care of, some of them do not even have the professionalism to dedicate themselves (Jonathan "Mantequilla" Gonzalez), some of them are mismanaged; some of them beleive their own hype and fall hard once they up their competition, and most of them just want to make money right off the bat without paying their dues and putting their time in. Whether we like it or not the last one to do this was Cotto and look at where he is now, promoting his own fights, making millions, picking and choosing the fights he wants, but he paid his dues and learnt the business, something most boxewrs don't eben try nowadays.

[Overhand Right]

Eh, there was only a two pound difference.

Lmao, sorry Dulorme. Try another 1.

[kiaba360]

Eh, there was only a two pound difference.

He has somewhat of a decent point though. If he's only weighing 153 on fight night, maybe he should experiment with 140. It'll only take him one training camp to know if 140 is/isn't the best division for him, so why not try? He's been consistently making 146, maybe he can afford to drop those 6lbs. We will see what happens. Guys like Berto/Ortiz do come into the ring as MWs though, but clearly Abregu isn't one of them. Dulorme gotta focus on developing his skill-set first, worry about the weight later.

[AntonTheMeh]

I think going down will play better to his abilities. First two rounds he dominated Abregu with his distance. As soon as he got caught once he got dropped. I cant imagine what would happen against bigger opposition.

At 140 he might have a chance to be at worst another Amir Khan.

which isn't necessarily a good thing. I'd imagine he'll have to deal with bigger guys in the long run anyway. maybe it isn't such a bad thing, he did turn pro at lightweight.

[New England]

this kid's eyes were rolling around in his head way too quickly for my liking


he'll almost certainly never amount to much in boxing. if you can't take a punch you've got very poor prospects of winning at the top level.

[STREET CLEANER]

He needs to learn how to adjust in the ring. You are not going to dominate everybody. Don't know if he can't or hsi corner simply can't train him the right way.

Very basic stuff wasn't there when he got KOed

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Dropping back down to 140 aint gonna do jack for him if he doesn't fix his flaws and changes his management. People are talking about his corner, but the instructions the corner gave him were on point, he just didn't follow them.

First, he was not supposed to be in there with Abregu, the guy has twice as many fights, has fought at the championship level, and hits like a mule. Dulorme only had 16 fights at the time of the fight, never even fought anybody above C- level let alone championship level. His managament ****ed him over point blank. Shaw-Dibella-Murillo has signed a lot of PR prospects and they feeding them to the wolves as soon as they get a nice purse, for example, Orlandito Del Valle, Pedraza, and now Dulorme. Pedraza survived a reallly good scrap with a little Mexican fighter that landed plenty of punches on him, but could not break an egg. If that would have been anybody else Pedraza would have lost too.

Then on to his flaws, he keeps his arms way too low, pulls straight back with the arms low instead of circling to the sides with the arms up high, also pulls back with his head way up high instead of tucked in, does not go to the body, jumps in when throwing punches, does not put punches together, was circling to Abregu's right hand, becomes too predictable with his jabs because he does not mixes it up to the body and then to the head, does not have waist movement, no bobbing and weaving, depends on his power too much, once he landed on Abregu flush and Abregu didn't even blink you could see in his face he didn't know what to do next, squares off too much. I haven't seen much of him, but at least off of this fight, he did not impress me at all.

I am from PR, born and raised living in the states now, and I've never seen the PR boxing scene so bad, ever. None of these so called "next PR champion" are being taken care of, some of them do not even have the professionalism to dedicate themselves (Jonathan "Mantequilla" Gonzalez), some of them are mismanaged; some of them beleive their own hype and fall hard once they up their competition, and most of them just want to make money right off the bat without paying their dues and putting their time in. Whether we like it or not the last one to do this was Cotto and look at where he is now, promoting his own fights, making millions, picking and choosing the fights he wants, but he paid his dues and learnt the business, something most boxewrs don't eben try nowadays.

With all due respect man, I find it funny how as a PR fan and being from PR you can talk about not bringing up fighters the right way and throwing them to the wolves.

Welcome to the world of every Mexican fighter in the history of the sport. hahaha

I disagree with you on the trainer, I don't think he told him anything TACTICALLY that was helping at all. Step 1 in avoiding the right hand is slipping after you throw the jab, then you move to your right and then you KEEP YOUR LEFT UP.

He wasn't doing any of those things and had better success as a lefty because of the change of movement and it confused Abregu for a moment.

I don't know if this is true and I'm not trying to disrespect PR trainers but I have heard from a few PR fighters that good training in PR is hard to come by, is this true? I'm not sure and I can't imagine it because of the history PR has in this sport.

[kiaba360]

He needs to learn how to adjust in the ring. You are not going to dominate everybody. Don't know if he can't or hsi corner simply can't train him the right way.

Very basic stuff wasn't there when he got KOed

Adjusting in the ring comes with experience; he's 22 years old. He did make a good adjustment when he switched to southpaw, but he couldn't adjust to the overhand right. This fight is a learning experience for him. He needs to learn how to clinch effectively, and needs more head movement as well.