Comments Thread For: Carlos Abregu Drops, Stops Thomas Dulorme in Seven

[_original_]

lol fun fight, what a chinless bastard.

[julian45]

does he have the purto rican footwork, and the mexican chin though?

it'd be ****ed up if he ended up being terrible cause too much of a good thing could be a bad thing.

yea, once Marilyn Monroe told Einstein we should have children, with your brains and my beauty they would be wonderful, Einstein in retort says what if the had my looks and your brains

[Joey_Torreo]

Many had said Gray Shaw wasn't the brightest guy matching up his young fighters, I guess they were right....

I thought Dulorme was ready for a step up in competition at 22 but I guess not. Maybe he should have fought a better opponent before fighting Abregu.

bro this guy dulorme is promoted by shaw, dibella, and some other guy from pr. And it seems like your trying to blame shaw for the loss becuse he decided to give him a step in his competition? C'mon man im not much of a fan of his but im sure he'll bounce back, these losses happen, lets not try to blame shaw. When these young guys dont face adequate competition, they protected hype jobs, when they step up and loose, they're overrated hype jobs.

[sigrab jr]

I don't know why people are saying this fight was "too soon". Who is Abregu? His resume is full of guys with terrible records. Despite Abregu's record appearing to be better because he has more fights, it's pretty padded. This would have been both of their best wins of their careers. It's Abregu's best win, it could've been Dulorme's best. The better man won. There's no "too soon" here.

With that said, Bradley has a couple of fighters on his resume that are growing as good wins. Abregu and Vazquez. If Abregu keeps winning and only has that lone loss to Bradley, and Vazquez keeps his winning streak since 2008-present for a long time, Bradley's resume will end up being one of the best of his era. He has Pacquiao[controversy or not], Peterson, Holt, Alexander, Witter, Vazquez, Abregu. Too bad the Pacquiao fight, no matter how hard he fought every round even through an injured foot, smears how good a fighter he is.

[sigrab jr]

These Argentine dudes are dangerous. They come to the US with their padded records full of tomato cans. All you see is "Oh, he's never fought any top caliber fighter. He has power but look against who." Then they come to the US, The M&M Boys plus Abregu; Martinez, Matthysse, Maidana, Abregu and they knock the top guys out or give a good account of themselves.

Maybe padding that resume with lots of bums, which translates to gaining experience and confidence is actually good for some boxers. I know guys like Ward, Dirrell, Rigondeaux don't need that. But depending on your style, it could be useful. Like Canelo, Chavez Jr, and the Argentines I mentioned.

[deanrw]

This is why careful Match Making in important to young fighters. You can feed them a bunch of journeymen and they look spectacular in beating them up one way or another. When they are so dominant, they become front runners and are simply not used to adversity. They forget about defense and fall apart mentally, then physically right before our eyes in the fight.

All it takes is one bad choice of a match to to derail it. The worst thing you can do to them is put them in with a veteran who knows all the tricks and can punch. We saw it with David Lemieux last year also.

Their matchmakers need to put them in with tough fighters who know some tricks and will give them some adversity, but not world class punchers that can drown them. What is the point in moving these kids along so slow, then make them take a giant leap? Find a middle ground and let them learn.

[julian45]

These Argentine dudes are dangerous. They come to the US with their padded records full of tomato cans. All you see is "Oh, he's never fought any top caliber fighter. He has power but look against who." Then they come to the US, The M&M Boys plus Abregu; Martinez, Matthysse, Maidana, Abregu and they knock the top guys out or give a good account of themselves.

Maybe padding that resume with lots of bums, which translates to gaining experience and confidence is actually good for some boxers. I know guys like Ward, Dirrell, Rigondeaux don't need that. But depending on your style, it could be useful. Like Canelo, Chavez Jr, and the Argentines I mentioned.

Nope, the thing is , we think the US is somehow better competition, out side of the real big fights we are not better competition. When a US fighter has a bunch of wins by KO but no names the media ohhs and ahhs. But when a mexican or argentinian or eastern european does its cab drivers. I am sure a 14 and 5 argintinian is as good or better then a US guy is

[TX_BOXNG]

I felt it was too soon for him against Abregu but I still thought he could pull the win, he won't be the same fighter no more, my favorite prospect is done lol, I think ima stick with my meskins for now on

[Mr. Fantastic]

Careful matchmaking? WTF!?! We're trying to pussyfy our boxers more now? You either got it or you fucking don't!

Here we're crying cause big fights don't get made but yet we talk about careful matchmaking. That's another big reason apart from money big fights don't get made.

[deanrw]

Careful matchmaking? WTF!?! We're trying to pussyfy our boxers more now? You either got it or you fucking don't!

Here we're crying cause big fights don't get made but yet we talk about careful matchmaking. That's another big reason apart from money big fights don't get made.

Yes when a fighter is young with no real experience, they need to be matched carefully to actually learn. You cannot set them up with tomato cans that they dispatch in less than a round, over and over again and then expect them to Swim with the sharks. There is a learning process needed. And by careful matchmaking i do not mean keep feeding them easy fights, but a gradual process so they can actually learn something on the fly.