Matthysse vs Alexander & Judah RBR!

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Just to generate discussion I'll do a RBR as well. This forum needs more threads like this.

Lucas Matthysse vs Zab Judah RBR.
Round 1 - Both guys feeling each other out. Both with a jab to the body. Nice straight left from Zab. Heads come together & Zabs pawing at his left eye. 10-9 Judah

Agreed. Feeling out round. Judah looks to be in control. Lucas seems to not know what he wants to do yet. 10-9 Judah. Slow round but clear W for Judah.

Round 2 - Starts off with a battle of the jabs. Strong right to the body from Lucas. Nice left hook to the body. The crowd are booing but its a good chessmatch. Lucas took the round for me with his bodyshots. 10-9 Lucas

Starts out as a jab off. Matthysse looking a lot more hesitant than I'm use to seeing. Does some decent body work. But again, Zab controls the round with his jab and footwork. The difference in hand speed is evident. 20-18 Judah.

Round 3 - Lucas landing some nice counters downstairs, some are being blocked whilst some are landing. Lucas is picking up the workrate whilst Judah is doing nothing. Lands a nice counter left! Nice straight left to the body. Judah complaining about a butt & has one of his childlike tantrums. Too little, too late for Zab. 10-9 Lucas

Matthysse picks up the pace landing some solid jabs and straights to the body. Judah lands a vicous left uppercut towards the end of the round. Lucas smiles at him. Too little too late. Agree with you here. 29-28 Judah

Round 4 - Lucas appears to of loosened up, outboxing Judah! Zabs jab starts to land, good counter left from Judah as they both exchange. Zab took the round by a whisker 10-9 Judah (Very close but I think Judah just stole that one)

Zab once again controlling the round with his jab and picking up the pace. Lands a few good counter punches. Close round but feel like Zab did the better work. Agree with you here. 39-37 Judah

Round 5 - Judahs using his jab more as a range finder, Lucas landing the harder jabs. Judahs blocking most with his elbows.
Judah lands two good straight lefts & takes the round. 10-9 Judah

Zab hooking with his jab. Again outboxing Matthysse and beating him to the punch. Matthysse still looks hesitant and is missing with a lot of his punches. Judah lands two solid lefts to close the round. Clear round for Zab. 49-46 Judah.

Round 6 - Lucas continues to jab to the body with the odd straight right behind it. Doubles up the right hand, Zab replies with flicking out a weak jab, doubles it up but all hit the gloves. Lucas swings a wild right hook which misses, followed by another which hits Zab on the shoulder.
Zabs not throwing many/any powershots at all. Good left, right from Lucas.
Judahs opens up finally but nothing landed. 10-9 Lucas

Nice left hand for Judah early in the round. Zab beginning to open up. Still moving effectively and using his jab to keep Matthysse off of him. Problem is he's not throwing enough power shots. Round goes to Lucas for clean, effective punching. Agree with you here. 58-56 Judah

Round 7 - Judah pumping out the jab but landing absolutely ****! Lucas going to the body but most of it being taken on the arms & elbows. Nice straight right hand from Lucas. Judah lands a more meaningful jab. 10-9 Lucas

Zab again moving away from, rolling and blocking a lot of Matthysse's shots. Again controlling the round with his jab. Beautiful counter left hand by Judah. It's a Zab round to me. Boxing very effectively Moving around, throwing the jab, picking his shots and staying out of range of Matthysse. Good display of boxing this round for Judah. Disagree with you here. Cosign Lampley and Roy. 68-65 Judah.

Round 8 - Judah lands a big uppercut but it doesn't phase Lucas, lands a nice straight left. Two nice body shots from Lucas, good left from Judah. Lucas finishes strong but for me that is a Judah round. 10-9 Judah

What more needs to be said? Judah's outboxing Matthysse, getting out of range and making him miss. He's landing his jab, and mixing it up with with some solid left hands. Agree with you here. 78-74 Judah

Round 9 - Lucas comes out strong, finally the pace picks up albeit briefly. Zab pawing with the jab, Lucas landing the occasional nice straight right to the body. Paw-paw-paw as Lucas swings widely. Lucas letting his hands go more but not much getting through. 10-9 Lucas

Again, scoring the round for Judah for ring generalship and defense. Scoring with his jab and occasionally hooking off the jab. Neither fighter is landing anything extraordinary. Judah does seem to be wearing down though. Difficult round to score but I'm giving it to Judah for reasons discussed. Got to agree with old man Ledderman. No problem with your score though.88-83 Judah

Round 10 - Nice straight right lands on Zabs button. Lucas cutting the ring off beautifully as he looks to unload. Bodyshots seem to be slowing Zab down. Right hand from Lucas and Judah is down. Lucas teeing off and lands and thudding left hook & a strong right hand. Good uppercut from Zab though Lucas just walks straight through it like it was nothing. 10-8 Lucas

Clear Matthysse round. Nothing needs to be said. Extra point for the KD.96-93 Judah

Round 11 - Lucas comes out like a bull & lands a wicked bodyshot. Judah gets clapped with a big right hand. Zab finally lets a combination go but nothing gets through though the crowd react to it. Lucas smiles and fires back, Zab goes down but its ruled a push. Nice bodyshot and a jab as Zab backs up from Lucas. Judah on the ropes & Lucas unleashes a combination, left hook, straight right, left hand sneaks through Judahs guard before Zab holds on. Lucas going in for the kill as Judah is merely trying to survive the round. Big overhand right from Lucas & a combination as he traps Zab in the corner. 10-9 Lucas

Matthysse coming on strong. Where was this in the early rounds though?

105-103 Judah

Round 12 - Better start to the round from Zab in the sense he is avoiding most of the onslaught, very defensive throughout. Good right from Lucas & another. Zab looking sorry for himself. Judah finally lands a decent left. 3 punch combo from Zab as he grins. Lucas replies with combinations as he has Zab on the ropes who is forced to clinch, looking very tired & hurt. 10-9 Lucas

Very hard fight to score! Zab outjabbed Lucas, Lucas landed more powershots, especially for the first 6-7 quite a lot of those rounds was very close and could of gone either way!

116-111 Lucas Matthysse Surprised its so wide, no problem if anybody has it a few closer as that, tough tough fight to score but for me Lucas was the clear winner and pulled it out down the stretch.

Another difficult round to score. Judah looks exhusted and is trying to hold on for dear life. Looks like Matthysse landed the more effective shots. Got to agree with you on round 12.

Final score 114-113 Judah Same score I had it before.

Rounds I disagree with your scoring: 2,6,7,9

[Russian Crushin]

You dont have to re watch those fights to know Lucas def won both of them

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Just to generate discussion I'll do a RBR as well. This forum needs more threads like this.

Again, scoring the round for Judah for ring generalship and defense. Scoring with his jab and occasionally hooking off the jab. Neither fighter is landing anything extraordinary. Judah does seem to be wearing down though. Difficult round to score but I'm giving it to Judah for reasons discussed. Got to agree with old man Ledderman. No problem with your score though.88-83 Judah



Final score 114-113 Judah Same score I had it before.

Rounds I disagree with your scoring: 2,6,7,9

lucas beat the stuffing out of zab in the 9th. there's no possible way zab won that round. ring generalship and defense makes no sense.

[9 TREY GKB]

Alexander won, he took the W and that's that.

most ppl agree

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115-112 matthyse vs judah for matthyse
96-93 matthyse vs alexander for matthyse

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115-112 matthyse vs judah for matthyse
96-93 matthyse vs alexander for matthyse

they really aren't hard to score. who's landing the punches? lucas. ok he gets the round. sounds easy. are people psyching themselves out by talking about jabs that hit air and footwork? who's landing the punches! wow judah got beat to hell in that round but i really liked his footwork!

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lucas beat the stuffing out of zab in the 9th. there's no possible way zab won that round. ring generalship and defense makes no sense.

Round 9? Nobody got the "stuffing beat out of them" in round 9. Lucas threw more punches but was missing wildly and occasionally slapping. In other cases Judah was circling away or catching the punches with his glove. It was an ugly round altogether. Unless your scoring it based on "being more active" or giving the benefit of the doubt to the guy coming forward.

[bojangles1987]

they really aren't hard to score. who's landing the punches? lucas. ok he gets the round. sounds easy. are people psyching themselves out by talking about jabs that hit air and footwork? who's landing the punches! wow judah got beat to hell in that round but i really liked his footwork!

You can't just focus on who is actually hitting their opponent.

Who has the faster footwork? Who is moving better? Whose punches look prettier? Who has the hotter wife? What color is their skin? What color are their trunks? Who did you pick to win the fight?

All of that matters just as much who is punching the other guy more.

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You can't just focus on who is actually hitting their opponent.

Who has the faster footwork? Who is moving better? Whose punches look prettier? Who has the hotter wife? What color is their skin? What color are their trunks? Who did you pick to win the fight?

All of that matters just as much who is punching the other guy more.

this is true. i forgot about all those.

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Round 9? Nobody got the "stuffing beat out of them" in round 9. Lucas threw more punches but was missing wildly and occasionally slapping. In other cases Judah was circling away or catching the punches with his glove. It was an ugly round altogether. Unless your scoring it based on "being more active" or giving the benefit of the doubt to the guy coming forward.

did zab change his name to nobody? it was a completely dominant round. no it was only an ugly round for judah. i score it based on lucas hammering judad to the head and body with clean punches over and over. not to judah who got hammered and landed 4 clean punches the entire round.