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  • Hougigo
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    #31
    Originally posted by FloydvsPac
    Pacquiao was gracious in "defeat". I remember him saying we have to accept the decision and move on. I don't know what boxing news sites you've been following. It was his fans that screamed bloody murder. Even the Mayweathers screamed robbery. But Pacquiao pretty much stayed humble.
    What was that he said after he got that decision in Marquez 3?
    To the Fans that didn't think he won?
    Hmmmm....

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    • kiaba360
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      #32
      Originally posted by FloydvsPac
      I don't want to see Bradley-Peterson II either. But Haymon fighters earn millions from HBO for crap fights as well. No one can argue that.

      I don't know what's wrong with Bradley. Maybe he's depressed after getting beaten down by the press and the public after the Pacquiao fight. For a while, Bradley refused to leave Florida and only talked to local press. And then when he went on vacation in Hawaii, people treated him badly. His trainer even complained that the public is still blaming him. So maybe, he's too depressed to fight. It's that OR he's over-valuing himself. Who knows.
      You say you don't want Bradley/Peterson 2, but you're disappointed that he didn't take the fight....I'm not comprehending your train of thought. Why automatically assume that it's a money issue? We're so used to fighters being FORCED to fight by their promoters that we think the guys who actually go into the ring have no say-so in who/when they fight. Why should Bradley have a meaningless rematch?

      In a recent article on BoxingScene.com, Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, and manager Cameron Dunkin, agreed that there was a good chance that WBO welterweight champion



      TR and GBP fighters need to start using their natural leverage as boxers to make their promotional companies work with one another. What TR/GBP are doing to boxing is fucking bullshit. They're robbing the audience of worthy match-ups and they're robbing opportunities from the fighters.

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      • FloydvsPac
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        #33
        Originally posted by kiaba360
        You say you don't want Bradley/Peterson 2, but you're disappointed that he didn't take the fight....I'm not comprehending your train of thought. Why automatically assume that it's a money issue? We're so used to fighters being FORCED to fight by their promoters that we think the guys who actually go into the ring have no say-so in who/when they fight. Why should Bradley have a meaningless rematch?

        In a recent article on BoxingScene.com, Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, and manager Cameron Dunkin, agreed that there was a good chance that WBO welterweight champion



        TR and GBP fighters need to start using their natural leverage as boxers to make their promotional companies work with one another. What TR/GBP are doing to boxing is fucking bullshit. They're robbing the audience of worthy match-ups and they're robbing opportunities from the fighters.
        It's not totally clear why Bradley bailed out of the Guerrero fight. But by walking away from $1 million payday for fighting Peterson and pissing off HBO, I can't blame anyone else but Bradley. If he was making this decision purely on principle, then his team would be wise enough to put out a public statement saying such, which would then gain support of all boxing fans. He didn't do this. Bradley has smart people around him and yet, he's looking like an idiot. I'm not sure what's going on.

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        • coolka
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          #34
          Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy
          Don't know why people get mad at Bradley for that desision....it wasn't him who paid the judges...it was Bob the blob Arum. Let me be clear, Bradley lost that fight most definetly...but is not his fault he was given a croock desision.
          am just yapping about the morons here who really thinks Bradley could have KO Pacquiao if his feet weren't hurt.

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          • Light_Speed
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            #35
            Originally posted by FloydvsPac
            Post fight comments after a close fight is different.

            Bradley is pretty a good guy. But he became a villain with no fans after insisting he won a fight that wasn't close. When a few people (mostly haters) try to debate that a fight was CLOSE, it's a clear sign that it wasn't. In close fights, people debate on WHO WON....not whether it was close or not.
            But Pac said it wasn't close, that's the point.

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            • FloydvsPac
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              #36
              Originally posted by Light_Speed
              But Pac said it wasn't close, that's the point.
              You got it wrong, bro. When it's close, each side has to make an argument that they are clearly in the right. No different than when a criminal or civil case goes to trial and each side has to make an argument.

              Pacquiao-Marquez fights were close, so each has to plead their case that they won. Pacquiao-Bradley is obviously not the same situation. Not many people actually expected Bradley to admit defeat, but him to vehemently say non-stop that he won just pissed more people off about the decision. He should've gone about it a different way.

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #37
                Marquez-Pacquiao was nowhere near as bad a decision as Bradley-Pacquiao.

                Seriously, Bradley looked like a sparring partner in there.

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                • kiaba360
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by FloydvsPac
                  It's not totally clear why Bradley bailed out of the Guerrero fight. But by walking away from $1 million payday for fighting Peterson and pissing off HBO, I can't blame anyone else but Bradley. If he was making this decision purely on principle, then his team would be wise enough to put out a public statement saying such, which would then gain support of all boxing fans. He didn't do this. Bradley has smart people around him and yet, he's looking like an idiot. I'm not sure what's going on.
                  Blaming him for what exactly? Not fighting a guy that he already beat, or for the fact that he isn't fighting Guerrero? If it's the latter, then I don't see how. I find it hard to believe anything that Arum and Schaefer say because of their agendas. TR says something and GBP says something different. Why believe any of them?
                  Last edited by kiaba360; 10-25-2012, 12:38 PM.

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                  • Fetta
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by FloydvsPac
                    You got it wrong, bro. When it's close, each side has to make an argument that they are clearly in the right. No different than when a criminal or civil case goes to trial and each side has to make an argument.

                    Pacquiao-Marquez fights were close, so each has to plead their case that they won. Pacquiao-Bradley is obviously not the same situation. Not many people actually expected Bradley to admit defeat, but him to vehemently say non-stop that he won just pissed more people off about the decision. He should've gone about it a different way.
                    Sounds like you just said the same thing but spun it to favor Pac saying what he said.

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                    • Fetta
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Marquez-Pacquiao was nowhere near as bad a decision as Bradley-Pacquiao.

                      Seriously, Bradley looked like a sparring partner in there.
                      But it was a bad decision and i dont think thats what they are debating. They are saying Bradley should have been more humble instead of celebrating his biggest win. While Pac did the same thing when a majority felt he robbed JMM but for him since it was a closer fight its alright. Wait....

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