Donaire/Rigondeaux = Ward/Bute

[danceswithfire]

Nonito
Mares
Rigo
Nishioka
Darchinyan / Vazquez Jr

at 122 :
mares got morel
rigo got rico ramos
how the hell did they rank higher than nishioka?

[HeroBando]

Nonito
Mares
Rigo
Nishioka
Darchinyan / Vazquez Jr

I assume that's if and when Mares beats Moreno. Otherwise it's giving him a lot of credit for his work below, and a vacant title at 120 CW against #10 rated 118er Morel.

[sicko]

wrong ..ward fought the number 1, 2 , 3 in his division and some..nonito fought the #1 in 3 divisions and some..

also, bute actaully has recognizable names in his resume , rigo does'nt

Hold on, Donaire has 31 Pro Fights and only two impressive wins on his Resume and that is Vic Darchinyan and Fernando Montiel...WHO ELSE? And please don't waste my time mentioning his last two opponents, nobody had a ***in clue who those fighters was, and who in the *** have they beat?

Rigondeaux only has 11 pro Fights, I don't expect him to have an impressive Resume with just 11 Fights into his PRO CAREER...but Rico Ramos, Teon Kennedy and Marroquin are all young guys will get better and learn from their losses to Rigondeaux, Rigondeaux can only fight who want to fight him, not like he is at the Top and Looking Down and Cherry Pick which fighter to fight next or which fighter is the easiest to beat or which fighter will be willing to let me hit them and not move around much

Your BOY was at 118 and Avoided Agbeko, Yohnny Perez, Vic (rematch), Mares and Moreno...did not even make the effort to fight any of them, he took Montiel title and played it safe then moved up and avoided fighting any of them...again Ward actually CLEANED OUT HIS DIVISION! As for Bute he was Cherry Picking himself, he did not want to fight any top fighters up until Froch

So the Comparison is LAUGHABLE! I have yet to hear Ward reject at fight and say "I WON'T FIGHT THIS GUY BECAUSE HE IS BORING"

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Hold on, Donaire has 31 Pro Fights and only two impressive wins on his Resume and that is Vic Darchinyan and Fernando Montiel...WHO ELSE? And please don't waste my time mentioning his last two opponents, nobody had a ***in clue who those fighters was, and who in the *** have they beat?

Rigondeaux only has 11 pro Fights, I don't expect him to have an impressive Resume with just 11 Fights into his PRO CAREER...but Rico Ramos, Teon Kennedy and Marroquin are all young guys will get better and learn from their losses to Rigondeaux, Rigondeaux can only fight who want to fight him, not like he is at the Top and Looking Down and Cherry Pick which fighter to fight next or which fighter is the easiest to beat or which fighter will be willing to let me hit them and not move around much

Your BOY was at 118 and Avoided Agbeko, Yohnny Perez, Vic (rematch), Mares and Moreno...did not even make the effort to fight any of them, he took Montiel title and played it safe then moved up and avoided fighting any of them...again Ward actually CLEANED OUT HIS DIVISION! As for Bute he was Cherry Picking himself, he did not want to fight any top fighters up until Froch

So the Comparison is LAUGHABLE! I have yet to hear Ward reject at fight and say "I WON'T FIGHT THIS GUY BECAUSE HE IS BORING"

Again, 2 p4p wins is better than most of the rest, careerwise. And in between it's all been champs, no duds like Miranda or Green or Barker or Likar Ramos or Fedchenko.

And you're just lying about him avoiding the 118ers, Vic and retired Yonnhy Perez lol, Moreno who passed on their offer. So unlike 112 he didn't clean out 118, but he's not far from doing it at 122, 3 belts in 9 months.

And noone is saying Rigo's resume is weak for an 11 fight pro, it's great. It's not very good for a #2 champ, and real bad for a p4p challenger.

[danceswithfire]

Hold on, Donaire has 31 Pro Fights and only two impressive wins on his Resume and that is Vic Darchinyan and Fernando Montiel...WHO ELSE? And please don't waste my time mentioning his last two opponents, nobody had a ***in clue who those fighters was, and who in the *** have they beat?

Rigondeaux only has 11 pro Fights, I don't expect him to have an impressive Resume with just 11 Fights into his PRO CAREER...but Rico Ramos, Teon Kennedy and Marroquin are all young guys will get better and learn from their losses to Rigondeaux, Rigondeaux can only fight who want to fight him, not like he is at the Top and Looking Down and Cherry Pick which fighter to fight next or which fighter is the easiest to beat or which fighter will be willing to let me hit them and not move around much

Your BOY was at 118 and Avoided Agbeko, Yohnny Perez, Vic (rematch), Mares and Moreno...did not even make the effort to fight any of them, he took Montiel title and played it safe then moved up and avoided fighting any of them...again Ward actually CLEANED OUT HIS DIVISION! As for Bute he was Cherry Picking himself, he did not want to fight any top fighters up until Froch

So the Comparison is LAUGHABLE! I have yet to hear Ward reject at fight and say "I WON'T FIGHT THIS GUY BECAUSE HE IS BORING"

just wanna add to waht hero bando already said.. ward and nonito resume compared:
champions or ex champions or future champions they beat

ward got dawson (going down in weight), froch, abraham, and kessler..(no p4p fighters when ward fought them )...then he got green , sakio bika, miranda

nonito got darchinyan, mthalane,tyson marquez and narvaez (going up in weight),syrodenko, montiel, mathebula and nishioka (2 p4p fighters when nonito fought them).. nonito got maldonado, rafael concepcion and raul martinez

[sicko]

Again, 2 p4p wins is better than most of the rest, careerwise. And in between it's all been champs, no duds like Miranda or Green or Barker or Likar Ramos or Fedchenko.

And you're just lying about him avoiding the 118ers, Vic and retired Yonnhy Perez lol, Moreno who passed on their offer. So unlike 112 he didn't clean out 118, but he's not far from doing it at 122, 3 belts in 9 months.

And noone is saying Rigo's resume is weak for an 11 fight pro, it's great. It's not very good for a #2 champ, and real bad for a p4p challenger.

Lying about 118? Agbeko, Vic, Moreno, Mares and Perez (before he retired) was all around at 118 when Donaire Moved Up, OK you take out Perez for retiring even though he was still around, what about the rest? He never even fought any of them

And I got news for you, he is not going to fight Rigondeaux, Mares or Moreno at 122, he is going to jump to 126 and fight Arce so what will be the excuse then, when he once against avoid Moreno, Mares oh and by the way Vic Darchinyan is not at 122 as well...he will avoid all of them ONCE AGAIN

Nobody else see this Pattern with Donaire Career? he really don't fight the "BEST IN THE DIVISION" he just kinda plucks and picks out the Beatable Champions so his ****** fans can say..."HE LOOK HE BEAT A CHAMPION" but

Toshiaki Nishioka and Mathabula Resumes are CRAP as well, so trying to justify them as legit opponents is LAUGHABLE, who did they beat to get to the top of their Division...Donaire MOVED to 122 because it was easier then 118 obvious, but now all of those fighters at 118 are not making their move he is ready to move up again

[sicko]

just wanna add to waht hero bando already said.. ward and nonito resume compared:
champions or ex champions or future champions they beat

ward got dawson (going down in weight), froch, abraham, and kessler..(no p4p fighters when ward fought them )...then he got green , sakio bika, miranda

nonito got darchinyan, mthalane,tyson marquez and narvaez (going up in weight),syrodenko, montiel, mathebula and nishioka (2 p4p fighters when nonito fought them).. nonito got maldonado, rafael concepcion and raul martinez

^Looking at those Resumes next to each other it is ***in COMEDY

and who was to P4P Fighters on Donaire Resume? What are you looking at Boxrec Rankings? P4P Rankings are opinions, it is no such thing as a P4P OFFICIAL RANKING, it is many of them, your really going to give Donaire Credit for ESPN having Toshiaki Nishioka rated #20 P4P hahaha, against I ask, look at his resume...who in the *** DID HE BEAT?

Oh and by the way going into the Super 6, Kessler, Froch and Abraham was All Title Holders

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Lying about 118? Agbeko, Vic, Moreno, Mares and Perez (before he retired) was all around at 118 when Donaire Moved Up, OK you take out Perez for retiring even though he was still around, what about the rest? He never even fought any of them

And I got news for you, he is not going to fight Rigondeaux, Mares or Moreno at 122, he is going to jump to 126 and fight Arce so what will be the excuse then, when he once against avoid Moreno, Mares oh and by the way Vic Darchinyan is not at 122 as well...he will avoid all of them ONCE AGAIN

Nobody else see this Pattern with Donaire Career? he really don't fight the "BEST IN THE DIVISION" he just kinda plucks and picks out the Beatable Champions so his ****** fans can say..."HE LOOK HE BEAT A CHAMPION" but

Toshiaki Nishioka and Mathabula Resumes are CRAP as well, so trying to justify them as legit opponents is LAUGHABLE, who did they beat to get to the top of their Division...Donaire MOVED to 122 because it was easier then 118 obvious, but now all of those fighters at 118 are not making their move he is ready to move up again

He didn't avoid anyone at 112-115, the top guys avoided him. At 118, how could he avoid the guys tied up in a tournament that ran long? With the best 2 names with GBP, 1 of which was offered a fight before signing with GBP. At 122, his 4th division, 3 belts/3 top 10 wins in 9 months, enough said. Meanwhile Mares and Moreno have 0 combined title fights at 122.

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^Looking at those Resumes next to each other it is ***in COMEDY

and who was to P4P Fighters on Donaire Resume? What are you looking at Boxrec Rankings?

Both Montiel and Vic were top 10 ranked at some point. Montiel when Donaire beat him, Vic shortly thereafter, while ducking a rematch more or less

[sicko]

He didn't avoid anyone at 112-115, the top guys avoided him. At 118, how could he avoid the guys tied up in a tournament that ran long? With the best 2 names with GBP, 1 of which was offered a fight before signing with GBP. At 122, his 4th division, 3 belts/3 top 10 wins in 9 months, enough said. Meanwhile Mares and Moreno have 0 combined title fights at 122.

OK I am done with you, thanks for exposing your serious lack of Knowledge, all your doing is bringing up other Division, you can't even come up with a reason why he did not clean out 118 and why he did not fight any of those top fighters, all your saying "3 Belts in 9 Months at 122" but who did he fight and who did he beat? Toshiaki Nishioka and Mathabula, NOW go look at their Resumes, who in the *** DID THEY BEAT?

This is going in one big circle with Donaire fans who post replies with no logic or facts, only with PRIDE!

Arum fooled you guys once again!