How can people rank Marquez above Pacquiao?

[IronDanHamza]

I rank Marquez higher currently solely on the basis I felt he beat him in the 3rd fight comfortably.

Other than that, I agree his recent run doesn't really merit it.

[IronDanHamza]

you just cant...barrera , morales and jmm , now you can siwtch them around in rankings but not pacqauio...he 's defintely way above them 3, not even close...

I don't think he means on the ATG list.

Of course, Pacquaio is a lot higher than Marquez on the ATG list. As he is Morales and Barrera.

Although, I disagree with you on switching Barrera, Morales and Marquez around on the ATG list. I feel Morales and Barrera are much higher than Marquez also.

[El Mini 6]

Marquez is the far better fighter based on his technique alone , based on his natural counter puncher ability .. I don't think Pacquiao, has better far superior skills than Marquez. Jmm can adapt to any situation and any style ,while Manny really cannot .. It comes down to this, Marquez will always be the counterpuncher boxer that has a better ring IQ inside the ring all the time and will make adjustments to win the fight. Manny has only one style which is go forward and not really have a gameplan or makes any adjustments when faced with a pure boxer that moves around the ring. That alone to me is what makes Marquez better and why hes ranked higher than Manny, you can almost see Pacquiao thinking twice before attacking Jmm and we saw that in the 2nd and 3rd fight which was more convincingly in my opinion. I believe Marquez beat Pacquiao in his last fight which is why he is ranked above Pacquiao. Oh and for the record I believe Marquez would of Counterpunched Margarito all day long for 12 rounds.

[HeroBando]

Marquez is the far better fighter based on his technique alone , based on his natural counter puncher ability .. I don't think Pacquiao, has better far superior skills than Marquez. Jmm can adapt to any situation and any style ,while Manny really cannot .. It comes down to this, Marquez will always be the counterpuncher boxer that has a better ring IQ inside the ring all the time and will make adjustments to win the fight. Manny has only one style which is go forward and not really have a gameplan or makes any adjustments when faced with a pure boxer that moves around the ring. That alone to me is what makes Marquez better and why hes ranked higher than Manny, you can almost see Pacquiao thinking twice before attacking Jmm and we saw that in the 2nd and 3rd fight which was more convincingly in my opinion. I believe Marquez beat Pacquiao in his last fight which is why he is ranked above Pacquiao. Oh and for the record I believe Marquez would of Counterpunched Margarito all day long for 12 rounds.

But Pac's 1dim style somehow brought him success over 7+ weightclasses. Other than Pac, JMM doesn't have a real good result above 130. He's passed on several offers at 140, Khan and Judah for example, instead fought Likar Ramos and Fedchenko. Him counterpunching Marg for 12 rounds is fantasy, even Pac with his much faster feet and better power found Marg a lot to handle.

[Zarco]

You cant compare opposition. Pacquiao is naturally stronger/faster/bigger than Marquez, thats why hes been able to beat those big dudes. You can however compare skills, Marquez is above Pacquiao, no if's and's or but's.

[RichCCFC]

Stopped reading and taking this serious when I saw Clottey.

You think Marquez would have beat Clottey at 147?

[RichCCFC]

So if they were to rank a flyweight above Pac he would have to be able to beat pacs opponents at welterweight to justify it?? No therefor your that logic doesnt work.

Uhhh they have always been the same size which is why this is relevant.

[RichCCFC]

de la hoya 147 lb catchweight
hatton style is made for marquez
cotto 145 catchweight
clottey showed up to collect a paycheck
margarito 150 lb catchweight
mosley was shot to ****

Since when is 147 lbs a catch weight? Do you know what a catch weight is or do you repeat everything your idle says mindlessly?

Cotto at 145 was not really draining himself, so what is your point here? You think Marquez would have beat him?

Clottey showed up to not get knocked out vs Pacquiao, but Marquez does not possess the speed or power to make Clottey fearful, Clottey would beat Marquez comfortably, imo.

Margarito 150 lbs catchweight.. uh.. so? He is a career 147 lber and didn't even win a title at 154.. what is your point? Marquez vs a 150 lbs Margarito? Don't like Juan's chances.

Mosley was past his prime, obviously. But his style, size (+length), speed and power would definitely have troubled Marquez at 47.

Way too easy to brush these wins off like you did, but in reality Marquez might win 2 of them.

[T.Horton]

Uhhh they have always been the same size which is why this is relevant.

[tocayito1]

Since when is 147 lbs a catch weight? Do you know what a catch weight is or do you repeat everything your idle says mindlessly?

Cotto at 145 was not really draining himself, so what is your point here? You think Marquez would have beat him?

Clottey showed up to not get knocked out vs Pacquiao, but Marquez does not possess the speed or power to make Clottey fearful, Clottey would beat Marquez comfortably, imo.

Margarito 150 lbs catchweight.. uh.. so? He is a career 147 lber and didn't even win a title at 154.. what is your point? Marquez vs a 150 lbs Margarito? Don't like Juan's chances.

Mosley was past his prime, obviously. But his style, size (+length), speed and power would definitely have troubled Marquez at 47.

Way too easy to brush these wins off like you did, but in reality Marquez might win 2 of them.

lol seriously?
yes it was a catchweight even if it was at the welterweight limit because oscar was fighting at 154 or kiling himself to make 150 so they agreed with 147.

if cotto weighing in at 145 isnt a big deal then why not just fight at 147 then? its ****** and *****

clottey yes he did just show up to collect a paycheck

haha yea margarito was a career welter and a massive welter which is why he moved up since he couldnt make 147 anymore comfortably. That is my point and i should probably stop right there because this shows what kind of pac stan you are.

mosley was past his prime when he fought mayorga. that version of mosley was shot to ****

i dont blame pac for all these bs fights hes been in the past few years cuz i honestly believe that he would fight anybody. i blame arum for turning pac into the catchweight king of boxing.

i also dont do the fantasy matchup stuff especially with stans like you because its 100% about opinions. you can reply if you want but im done because i will now only have conversations with smart fans of boxing