Comments Thread For: Photos/Weights: Povetkin vs Rahman, Pulev-Ustinov

[BoxingsGuru]

Because they are the exception. Heavyweight world champs were always chubby (Ali, Frazier, Larry Holmes, Foreman, Valuev etc.)

Only rarely heavyweight champs are athletic. Klitschko, Haye and Tyson are exceptions, not the rule.

I completely disagree with you pal. No offense intended, but you should look up some old fights of the aforementioned fighters (while in their prime).

[BostonGuy]

oh my goodness is ustinov a big guy.

good lord. i knew he was huge, but i didn't think he'd make pulev look that small.

Yeah noticed that too. I wonder how guys like Ustinov would do against hws of yesteryear. Do you think Marciano would be able to negotiate the size difference?

[New England]

Yeah noticed that too. I wonder how guys like Ustinov would do against hws of yesteryear. Do you think Marciano would be able to negotiate the size difference?

i'll have to see more from ustinov first. i've seen so little. i'll get a look at his biggest test tomorrow. so far, i think the better question might be "could 300 lb ustinov go 15 rounds with rocky marciano?"

what a giant he is.

rocky fought in that funky crouch, and ustinov would probably have a hard time adjusting. usually these giant types are not huge punchers. i have no doubt that marciano would easily weather valuev's shot's for instance.

rocky almost certainly wouldn't be a one punch knockout/get you going type of puncher the way he was against the smaller HW he fought and stopped (moore, walcott, charles, louis,)

he'd need to look to outwork these guys and probably try and win on points.


ask me again after saturday.

[hweightblogger]

Valuev may have been but he is over 7 foot tall and still only weighs what around 310 pounds. And the second version of ole George may have been on the chubby side but surely not the original version. And they may not have been body builders but I for one don't associate Holmes, Ali or Smokin Joe with being chubby.

But they were chubby:

http://www.heavyweightblog.com/126/h...eight-division

Clay wasn't chubby at the beginning of the career, but at the beginning he wasn't a heavyweight in the first place.

Foreman won 3x world championships as an athletic guy and 3x as a fat guy.

You simply have to accept the fact that chubby heavyweight world champions are the rule and athletic world champions are the exception.

Chubbiness is the typical physique of heavyweight world champions. Whether Chris Byrd, Ruiz, Sam Peter or Ruslan Chagaev.

It's pure fantasy, that HW world champs are usually athletic. That's one of the reasons why athletic basketball type of guys hardly ever make an impact. Athleticism is usually a disadvantage at heavyweight.

[hweightblogger]

old chubby george and giant sized valuev are the EXCEPTION bud...

No, they are the rule.

BTW check out what rahman looked like when he won the title, he was in tip top shape when he KO'd lewis, completely opposite of the tub or lard he is today

And he was even lighter when he got KOed by Lennox Lewis.

I wonder, why you fail to mention that.

[Longjab10]

Pulev looks more out of shape than in recent fights, or so it seems.

God damn, why are these guys who are professional boxers, that chubby or fat???

I honestly feel like the Klitschko's and Haye are the only in shape guys in the Top 10 at HW right now. Boytsov is pretty in shape usually at least.

Don't forget Mitchell, he's one muscular heavyweight. But yeah, the fat's just awful to look at,

[BattlingNelson]

Rahman has got another undeserved shot at a 'belt' and yet he doesn't bother to take off some lbs. Fat bastard.

If he doesn't KO Povetkin in 2 rounds he is done.

[BattlingNelson]

Because they are the exception. Heavyweight world champs were always chubby (Ali, Frazier, Larry Holmes, Foreman, Valuev etc.)

Only rarely heavyweight champs are athletic. Klitschko, Haye and Tyson are exceptions, not the rule.

Your username is a joke. Or else you cannot have many people reading your blog. What you say in your post above is ignorance. Yes it is.

[Ravens Fan]

But they were chubby:

http://www.heavyweightblog.com/126/h...eight-division

Clay wasn't chubby at the beginning of the career, but at the beginning he wasn't a heavyweight in the first place.

Foreman won 3x world championships as an athletic guy and 3x as a fat guy.

You simply have to accept the fact that chubby heavyweight world champions are the rule and athletic world champions are the exception.

Chubbiness is the typical physique of heavyweight world champions. Whether Chris Byrd, Ruiz, Sam Peter or Ruslan Chagaev.

It's pure fantasy, that HW world champs are usually athletic. That's one of the reasons why athletic basketball type of guys hardly ever make an impact. Athleticism is usually a disadvantage at heavyweight.

Chris Byrd chubby? Have you ever actually seen photos of him from when he was active? I kind of remember Byrd looking pretty cut and in shape. And I won't say that there haven't been a fair share of chubby HW champs I just don't agree with your original selection.

I had to edit this because I just looked at the the link you added. How the hell do they know when that photo of Frazier was taken? And Ali looks like he is 60 years old in the photo of him and obviously it was taken at the end of his career. So, in my humble opinion neither one of those photos do anything to prove your point.

[hweightblogger]

Chris Byrd chubby?

Yes. Moobs and muscles.

Have you ever actually seen photos of him from when he was active?

Yes.

I had to edit this because I just looked at the the link you added. How the hell do they know when that photo of Frazier was taken?

Just google for Joe Frazier images. That's his physique.

And that photo was taken before his title fight against Buster Mathis.

And Ali looks like he is 60 years old in the photo of him

No, he isn't. He is 3 years younger than Vitali Klitschko now.

Ali was known for that kind of expansion and for a de****able training attitude.

Here you have another pic of Ali before his first fight against Frazier:
http://www.heavyweightblog.com/2272/...-vs-joe-frazer

"His belly billowing over his trunks, an overlump Ali weighed almost 230 pounds as he waited to spar in his 5th street gym 4 weeks ago."
"Ali's training camp is less disciplined than Frazier's. During the six weeks he lived in Miami Beach, there were days when he skipped a workout altogether. Some days he did not spar… He had trouble with his weight. When training began, he was near 230 pounds and he vowed not even to look at scales until one week before the fight. But three weeks ago he ambled by a scale in the gym, stepped on and whistled "226!" he cried. He vowed immediately to cut out the several Pepsis he drinks every day, but the vow did not last long. "

(LIFE magazine, March 1971)

So, in my humble opinion neither one of those photos do anything to prove your point.

Boxing fans have to finally wake up and face the reality. It's TYPICAL for HW champs to be chubby/fat. Being conditioned+fat is an advantage. Tyson's and the Klitschkos' body physique is atypical for HW champs. If you think the opposite you have been spoiled by the Klitschkos.

This era is more athletic than Ali's era.