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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostSo you're reasoning for Cotto being drained was training 2 lbs lower than usual, right??? So by your logic, Sergio training 6 lbs lower than usual would mean he'd be drained too, right???
And no, training to 145 isn't the same. However, him going down only 1 lb from his previous fight doesn't look drained to me.
Now as for Martinez. he has never weighted 160 for a middleweight fight. Do you know what that means?? Means that it is absolutely believable that when he says he can make 154, it might be true.
Cotto was forced to 145, Martinez offered to go to 154, also not the same.
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Originally posted by King Jaffe Joffer View PostSo the extra 2 pounds were meaningless? Why have the fight at 145 instead of 147? apparently team Pac felt it would give Manny an advantage.. Why wouldnt Pac fight Cotto at 154? since hes such the better fighter?
And we havent seen Cotto dropped like that since Torres(where Cotto was weight drained) Cotto was being knocked down in the same fashion Dawson was vs Ward..
But hey, its all opinion anyway.. The facts are Pac beat his ass at a catchweight
Btw, Cotto was happy with 150 for the Marg rematch last year, and here's Cotto goading Pac into offering him 150, just earlier this year:
http://www.boxingscene.com/cotto-pac...-go-154--48943
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostFunny considering you want Floyd/Martinez but go out of your way to criticize it. We might as well hold hands as hypocrites together.
So going by your logic, Sergio training down from 160 to 154 (6 lbs) and weighing in possibly 5 lbs less than he did inhis previous fight, would he be drained????
Again, this is going by your Cotto was drained logic, which you've said on here a million times.
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I think this fight can be easily made.
Martinez wont mind being tested.
Martinez wont mind taking the short end of the split.
Martinez wont mind taking little to none of the PPV revenue and live gate.
No Arum to mess things up
Floyd literally holds every single card. If this fight is made they'll most likey just offer Martinez a flat fee that he will immediately accept ,there will also be a rematch clause and it will be in Vegas.
Boom fight done. Record the 24/7's.
I want to hear Floyds response.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostExactly, in the Clottey fight Cotto trained to 147 & happened to weight 146. In the Pacman fight he could weight no more than 145. Huge difference.
Now as for Martinez. he has never weighted 160 for a middleweight fight. Do you know what that means?? Means that it is absolutely believable that when he says he can make 154, it might be true.
Cotto was forced to 145, Martinez offered to go to 154, also not the same.
Chad said he'd mae 168 no problem and offered to go there, was he drained or affected in your "expert" opinion???
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostYes, in the case of FMJ-Pacquiao, yes. But idk what you mean by making every concession. What is he conceding in purse? What is he conceding in location? Does he want the fight in Argentina?
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Originally posted by 4Corners View PostSo you say Cotto was drained training down from 147 to 145 (2 lbs) and weighing in 1 lb less than he did in his previous fight.
So going by your logic, Sergio training down from 160 to 154 (6 lbs) and weighing in possibly 5 lbs less than he did inhis previous fight, would he be drained????
Again, this is going by your Cotto was drained logic, which you've said on here a million times.
Lets post the facts you're ignoring. Cotto was forced to 145. Martinez while never making 160 has repeatedly said he can make 154. Apples & oranges.
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Originally posted by Bushbaby View PostAnd going by your logic & since you like comparo's so much: B-Hop should have lost in his catchweight fight to Oscar cause he was drained.
Lets post the facts you're ignoring. Cotto was forced to 145. Martinez while never making 160 has repeatedly said he can make 154. Apples & oranges.
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