The last time Andre Ward lost...

[Sam Donald]

raushee warren has been fighting for too bliming longgggggggggggggg

[Gino Ros]

I've had this in my files for 14 years...this is the kind of stuff you see and the kind of people you see at amateur tournaments...February 7, 1998 at Lenexa, Kansas, National Silver Gloves tournament...The last time Andre Ward ever lost was at 132 pounds Intermediate JO to John Revish (it's off to the left, about halfway down on the page)....notice that Chad Dawson lost in the finals the same day, at 132 senior JO to Julio Perez (I was in his corner)...other kids who fought on this day include Nonito Donaire, Raushee Warren, Gary Russel (Warren and Russel are on the back side of this paper), Allen and Jason Litzau, Timothy Bradley and Curtis Stevens...my boxer Sammy Vega, pictured on the bottom right, won the national title at 106 senior JO...

Tim Bradley's growth curve has always puzzled me. If you look at his early growth spurt, and you look at the size of his dad, you would have expected Tim to be of a bigger stature as an adult.

Makes me wonder if too much weight-lifting at an early age stunted his growth.

[IIG]

I`m angry at you cause you allowed one of my favorite fighters to go down to 168 and take Ward on without trying to talk Chad out of it.Most people knew Dawson would likely be weight drained and most of us who knew are not real boxing experts but you are but yet you couldn`t see that it was a bad idea to allow Chad to go to 168.

How could you not see it was a bad idea when you mentioned what happened to Chris Byrd when he came down to cruiser?I`m sure Chris Byrd thought he could make the weight without draining himself.


Now i have to see all these bad wagon Jumpers call Ward the best p4p boxer right now even though he beat a wieght-drained Zombie.Mayweather senior who use to trained Dawson said before the fight that Chad should not be going down to 168 to fight Ward and that the fight should be at 175.

And what whats so shocking is that Chad got payed chump change to come down to 168 and go to his hometown.I would have thought since Chad would be going through all that that he would have gotten a lot of dough for that risk.I can`t believe Chad sold himself so short.

Dawson is a grown man, no one could have stopped him from making that decision. Least of all his trainer.

[Unknown Champ]

Dawson is a grown man, no one could have stopped him from making that decision. Least of all his trainer.

I agree but wanna hear what the iceman gotta say yo

[juandabomb]

good ol'iceman always informing the boxing community with good stuff..thanks again

[taansend]

Thanks Mate. Interesting browsing. I also noticed Shawn Hawks name in there.

[raskat]

hey Scully wassup. I thought Chad looked CLEARLY horribly weight drained. he had no energy and Ward knocks him out even though he is not known for punching power? clear to see Chad was badly weight drained. at lightheavy it might be a totally different outcome.
Btw I felt Andre Ward lost against Sakio Bika by 1 or 2 points. Was a very bad decision by the judges.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

I`m angry at you cause you allowed one of my favorite fighters to go down to 168 and take Ward on without trying to talk Chad out of it.Most people knew Dawson would likely be weight drained and most of us who knew are not real boxing experts but you are but yet you couldn`t see that it was a bad idea to allow Chad to go to 168.

with all due respect, my man, that decision was made regardless of what I may have thought about it...it was already put in motion before the Hopkins fight...Im not involved on the business end of things when it comes to the fighters, I stay out of it. They hire me to do a job and I do it...the people with the money control what happens in this business, my friend...

[FIGHTING_FLIP]

with all due respect, my man, that decision was made regardless of what I may have thought about it...it was already put in motion before the Hopkins fight...Im not involved on the business end of things when it comes to the fighters, I stay out of it. They hire me to do a job and I do it...the people with the money control what happens in this business, my friend...

iceman schoolin these kids that post on here who dont know nothin about boxing

[sammiza567]

i spy jaun diaz on there