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  • Originally posted by thoughtsss View Post
    who gives a chit, Margarita was going UP in weight from his previous fight with manny. Same thing can be said to Margarita, he fought manny at 150 why can't he fight Miguel at 150?
    and why he can't fight Pac at 150 when he asked margacheato to fight him at 150? anyway, this fight is useless anyway... I'm just glad it will not happen for now but I hope this fight will not happen anymore. lol

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    • i guess it's that time of the month for some of you. while are ya'll acting like you didn't already know this?

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      • I think that if a fighter can't make weight in a certain division, then he has no business fighting at that weight or competing for that title. If a catch weight is involved, then it should have one fighter going up and one going down. That way both fighters are making a sacrifice and the playing field is more even. I like Pacquiao but the whole "8 division" thing is a gimmick and should have an asterisk associated.

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        • Originally posted by Camp Beast View Post
          I think that if a fighter can't make weight in a certain division, then he has no business fighting at that weight or competing for that title. If a catch weight is involved, then it should have one fighter going up and one going down. That way both fighters are making a sacrifice and the playing field is more even. I like Pacquiao but the whole "8 division" thing is a gimmick and should have an asterisk associated.
          WTF , going up is different than going down , the one going up gets stronger and the one going down gets weaker , how is that even ?

          You guys wanna talk about weight at least get an understanding on how it works !

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          • Originally posted by hillbilly View Post
            Catchweights are as old as boxing. They are what you do to make fights between bigger fighters and smaller fighters. Let's look at some of the "classless" boxers that have resorted to "catchweights" in fights:

            Julio Cesar Chavez v. Pernell Whitaker--Chavez insisted on 145 and got it.
            Sugar Ray Leonard v. Danny Lalonde--Leonard insisted on 167 for Lalonde's 175 lb belt (really?)
            Roy Jones Jr. v. Tito Trinidad--Tito insisted on 170 lbs for this and got it.
            Oscar De La Hoya v. Bernard Hopkins--158 lbs at De La Hoya's insistence
            Henry Armstrong v. Lew Jenkins--140 (7 under the welterweight limit) at Jenkins' insistence.
            Dont compare these guys with what Manny does. These guys have 1 catchweight fight? Manny has had how many? And how many fights have fell off because he WANTED a catchweight?
            Pac - Cotto
            Pac - DLH (not really a catchweight but same principal, bigger fighter coming down/smaller fight coming up)
            Pac - Mosley (originally wanted at 142 Mosley said kickrocks)
            Pac - Marg
            pac - Cotto 2 (Cotto says sucka bag of ****s)

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            • Originally posted by Camp Beast View Post
              I think that if a fighter can't make weight in a certain division, then he has no business fighting at that weight or competing for that title. If a catch weight is involved, then it should have one fighter going up and one going down. That way both fighters are making a sacrifice and the playing field is more even. I like Pacquiao but the whole "8 division" thing is a gimmick and should have an asterisk associated.
              EXACTLY
              "Stay in your ****ing lane"

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              • Originally posted by hillbilly View Post
                In my opinion, Cotto hasn't fought any of the top 154 lb fighters. He's beaten: Yuri Foreman, Ricardo Mayorga, Antonio Margarito, and Floyd Mayweather.

                Foreman is totally featherfisted and had a hurt knee. Mayorga has been shot for years. Margarito is shot and has never had any success at 154. Floyd isn't a 154 lber. Until Cotto gets in the ring against a real top 154 lber, I'll reserve judgment as to how effective he can be at this weight. I think Trout is going to hand Cotto his ass.
                Good points hillbilly... Cotto is def still unproven at 154... He's not a devastating body puncher either anymore... But how good is Trout? Is he a real top 154 lber?

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                • Cotto didn't want to embarrase himself for doing the moonwalk for 6+ rounds again

                  The truth is that if the fight was made at 154, it would benifit Pac even more than at 150 cuz Cotto's speed would look like he was stuck in molasses compared to Pacs and speed kills

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                  • Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                    Cotto didn't want to embarrase himself for doing the moonwalk for 6+ rounds again

                    The truth is that if the fight was made at 154, it would benifit Pac even more than at 150 cuz Cotto's speed would look like he was stuck in molasses compared to Pacs and speed kills
                    so, they were asking for the catch weight for cotto's benefit.

                    **** outta here.

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                    • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      So "No Excuses" Miguel is now blaming the weight for his beatdown by Pacquaio, just like he blames the wraps for Margarito raping him. Not to mention he went off in a strop like a little girl after clearly losing to Mayweather.

                      He didn't seem to mind about going down in weight when he asked Margarito for a catchweight in their rematch...
                      That's all true. He wanted to defend his tittle against Margarito at a top weight of 150. That is the same 150 they wanted for the Cotto -Pacquiao rematch. How can Cotto try to make a fight with Margarito at 150 and claim he will be weak at 150 for Pacquiao? It does not compute. Cotto is full of double talk. Pacquiao and Cotto were not champions so 150 was not a catchweight, just a compromise weight between two fighters that are not the same size. I believe Cotto when he said they did not offer him 13 million. Bradley got 5 million so I'm guessing they offered him 8 or 9 million.

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