Comments Thread For: Chavez Sr: Julio Jr. Will Remain at 160, Not Move Up

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  • codey
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    #21
    This kid is more confused then a tourist in a foreign country. lol either way i wish em much luck in whatever he chooses to do.

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    • rzagza
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      #22
      No kidding he wont move up. He cant!! All his size advantages are lost at 168. Plus the fighters at 68 are much better. He has no choice but to keep using those diuretics and trying to outsize midgets.

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      • Infamous
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        #23
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
        The legendary Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. expects his son, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (46-1-1, 32KOs), to remain at 160-pounds when he returns to action in 2013. Last Saturday, Chavez lost a twelve round unanimous decision to Sergio Martinez in Las Vegas. A few days later it was revealed that Chavez Jr. failed a post-fight drug test. The young boxer tested positive for marijuana.

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        There's a lot of hate on this forum. I'm a big Martinez fan and I want to see a rematch. I think Jr has a wayyy better chance of beating Martinez in a rematch than he did in their first fight.

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        • sdcluser
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          #24
          I guess Fraud's dad doesn't think Fraud can fight w/o the size advantage. Sometimes I wonder if Fraud's dad is riding on Fraud's publicity.

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          • macman
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            #25
            One of the trade-offs of boiling down 20lb's to be the bigger man in fights (if not what looked to be 25-30lb's against Martinez) is the ability to sustain attacks & throw lots of punches. You see it almost every time in fighters that boil down a great deal of weight to gain that weight & size advantage - they fight in bursts...

            Personally think that Chavez Jr can compete at Super-Middleweight & go onto being an entertaining, popular fighter, who is busier & more consistent than the current middleweight version, & with likely a much longer career longevity as an added bonus (maybe even long enough for him to actually mature a bit as a human being).

            And while he's never likely to beat the Andre Ward's of this world, the only real chance he has against the Martinez's of this world is if Martinez suddenly gets old, & his injuries catch up with him.
            And I think that's a very slim chance - Martinez is one of the smartest guys in the game, & a training machine in preparation. I think he embarresses Chavez Jr for the full 12 next time - Chavez will likely improve, but Martinez is simply smarter & better, never cuts corners in his training, & will make the appropiate adjustments.
            Other guys he's likely to have trouble with are Daniel Geale, an incredibly fit, mobile fighter who works on the move using constant lateral movement & with a very high punch output.
            Golovkin would probably stop him brutally, size difference or not - style-wise Chavez Jr is tailor made for him...
            And if he isn't able to impose himself physically against other top level fighters at middleweight now that they know what their dealing with, he risks not only losing but losing in very one-sided fights, as he just won't have the gas in the tank to maintain sustained attacks that could turn it around for him.

            Properly matched at super-middle I think he has a pretty good career, & will keep growing that massive fan-base of his.
            Another badly one-sided fight at middle where he isn't able to salvage some pride in the last round & watch them start to depart. After two they stop finding excuses & depart in droves...

            The choice of opponents 4Corners put up is dead on the money "Pavlik, Abraham, Bika, Stevenson, etc." - the right style, Chavez jr could be must see TV for even hardened boxing fans as well as the casual, as the guy does have heart, power & is fun to watch...

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            • Fighting_Pride
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              #26
              the old man's right. chavez, jr. has the right ingredients to make it as a great fighter, he just needs to polish his fighting style and nail down his winning punch. chavez, jr. must realize the fight is won in the gym.
              Last edited by Fighting_Pride; 09-24-2012, 02:32 AM.

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              • Cutthroat
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                #27
                We've already seen a much better version of Chavez Jr. at SMW, his name is Librado Andrade. Andrade's chin>>>>>Chavez

                Chavez will get killed at SMW, a division filled with very good fighters that are also very strong.

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                • sdcluser
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat
                  We've already seen a much better version of Chavez Jr. at SMW, his name is Librado Andrade. Andrade's chin>>>>>Chavez

                  Chavez will get killed at SMW, a division filled with very good fighters that are also very strong.
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                  Da Truth. That's why Fraud doesn't move up.

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                  • flint
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                    #29
                    this is a joke. he'll come in the ring 25lbs heavier than the middle weights. he will never be a elite fighter with that kind of advantage. its a cowardly move.

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                    • Bring It On
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by flint
                      this is a joke. he'll come in the ring 25lbs heavier than the middle weights. he will never be a elite fighter with that kind of advantage. its a cowardly move.
                      Don't hate the player, hate the game.

                      Weighing in 35 hours before a fight is ridiculous.

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