Serious question. How is Martinez/Floyd the same as Martinez/Ward?

[The Gambler1981]

What, look in the mirror & see you??

I've defended my position. Martinez cannot compete with Ward at 168, a weight he's never been.

But Floyd can compete with Martinez at 154, where's he's now a 2 time champ. Pretty simple.

No you have only proven you are a hypocrite and that you don't understand what the word means~

Also that you can move goal post and make straw man arguments, when confronted with real debate you fold up shop and try to downplay those calling out your hypocritical garbage.

Martinez can compete with Ward if he wants to prove his greatness like Floyd did by going out of his element to challenge guys above him, to bad Martinez doesn't want to do that but I don't require that and there is plenty of work for him to do at 160 since that division is heating up but when the division was dry he was still hanging there so it figures.

[The Big Dunn]

You aren't on Floyd's payroll. Shut, the fuck up.

my guess is since you are no onger on the payroll you have created this alt.

[Grimgash]

Are you trying to imply that the fight won't sell??

Will it sell? Yes... will it make close to the amount of money of Floyd/Canelo? You're out of your mind if you think so.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

People just wanna hurt Floyd. It's not fair and it's mean


Why y'all wanna see my homey get beat up by a natural middleweight?

You **** with Floyd, you ****ing with meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I will take a bullet for Floyd

You aren't on Floyd's payroll. Shut, the fuck up.

These 2 are the same exact poster.

[FeFist]

See, this is what I don't get with you dudes. How am I a hypocrite if I do not believe Martinez can compete with Ward at 168. You can't give me any logic explanation as to why you think he can other than (he's a great fighter).

What's hypocritical is when a guy like you, say that Martinez should go to 168 & fight the best fighter in the world, then compare it to Floyd. As if Floyd has ever went up in weight & fought the best fighter.

Fighting Arthur Abraham for his strap is compatible to how Floyd has moved up in weight. Like I said, fighting Ward is a cop out that hypocrites like you conjure up bro.

If I was saying that Martinez beats Ward at 168, then make an excuse as to why he shouldn't fight him, kinda like what you're doing when you say Floyd beats Martinez then make excuses as to why he shouldn't fight him, then I'd be a hypocrite, just like you.

Do you believe Floyd can compete with Martinez? Or do you believe he will get pasted. People think you're a hypocrite because you don't want Martinez to fight Ward because in your mind you think Martinez will get a hiding, it is also assumed that you believe Martinez would spank Floyd yet that is a fight you're eager to see.

For me I wouldn't mind seeing Mayweather fight Martinez for the same reason I wouldn't mind seeing Martinez fight Ward. It is an opportunity for both fighters to overcome the odds.

Also when Mayweather fought De La Hoya at 154lb what other Jr Middleweight would you have him fight? When Mayweather fought Cotto at 154lb what Jr Middleweight would you have Mayweather fight? Lara? Trout?

[The Gambler1981]

agree 100%. I'm sure if floyd was told the Cartel would kick in $50 mil cash he'd be in azteca getting his face bashed in by a 180 lb JCC. Especially if he starts to lose the $250k bets.

That is the thing, Floyd will be around for a long time so it is only a matter of time until he loses and all these cats that are dying to see him get beat will see it, but most will completely miss the signs because they are so focused on Floyd not fighting the guy they want at the exact time and will get made to look ****** even when he loses, even though they are dying to predict his downfall~

And they like to run their mouth about people not knowing the deal, which is very laughable.

[Johnny Dough]

No you have only proven you are a hypocrite and that you don't understand what the word means~

Also that you can move goal post and make straw man arguments, when confronted with real debate you fold up shop and try to downplay those calling out your hypocritical garbage.

Martinez can compete with Ward if he wants to prove his greatness like Floyd did by going out of his element to challenge guys above him, to bad Martinez doesn't want to do that but I don't require that and there is plenty of work for him to do at 160 since that division is heating up but when the division was dry he was still hanging there so it figures.

Started at 147, now fighting at 160/ case closed

[kiaba360]

Well Martinez just did big business, regardless of how the a side or b-side was so realistically now is his best chance to press for the fight.

Canelo probably does bring more though.

Generally speaking though Floyd does big business with anyone, so there is only so much leverage anyone has on him which is the problem with the Manny fight, Floyd can march to his own drummer and has/can still do great and while Manny can still outdo everyone else he can't out do Floyd.

Still Floyd isn't a 154 pounder he just sometimes fights there against select opposition~

Floyd likes to fight the "best" and get paid well in the process. Martinez beating Canelo would prove he is a worthy option. Martinez/Canelo would do good #'s (more because of Canelo) and if Martinez can really get him good, then he'll gain some new fans. I hope his team is seeing what I'm seeing, they need to go for Canelo right away. It's always good when a fighter says they were the first to beat or expose a rising star, it makes the win mean that much more if the fighter goes on to do big things. Cotto is also looking at Canelo, but he's caught up with Trout.

[The Big Dunn]

That is the thing, Floyd will be around for a long time so it is only a matter of time until he loses and all these cats that are dying to see him get beat will see it, but most will completely miss the signs because they are so focused on Floyd not fighting the guy they want at the exact time and will get made to look ****** even when he loses, even though they are dying to predict his downfall~

And they like to run their mouth about people not knowing the deal, which is very laughable.

True. Its just a matter of time. Just like Tyson.

IMO If Zab was a professional and not a ****** ass clown hanging at lil kim and jay z video shoots, he would have beat floyd's ass already.

[Grimgash]

That is the thing, Floyd will be around for a long time so it is only a matter of time until he loses and all these cats that are dying to see him get beat will see it, but most will completely miss the signs because they are so focused on Floyd not fighting the guy they want at the exact time and will get made to look ****** even when he loses, even though they are dying to predict his downfall~

And they like to run their mouth about people not knowing the deal, which is very laughable.

Wait you mean these posters just really want to see floyd lose? I never noticed that.