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  • raskat
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    #21
    Originally posted by Own3d
    It's threads like this that really expose the people who don't know what they are talking about.

    Prime Tszyu would be in with a good shot at ANYONE on that list. Go see how good he was before making ****** comments.
    thanks for this comment. you are 100 % right. threads like this show that on boxingscene 90 % ******ed, uneducated users troll around.
    Tszyu would lose to maybe only 1 or 2 people on that list and I wouldnt be surprised if he beats all of them. F++cking kids here dont know jack about boxing. they just know that Hatton beat Tszyu so they think tszyu is garbage. hatton fouled tszyu the whole fight and thats how he won, not cause of boxing skills

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #22
      Originally posted by dan_cov
      Nobody is denying Kostya was one hell of a fighter but is it really that difficult to believe that people think he would come unstuck against a prime Oscar, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquaio, Tim Bradley, Lucas Matthysse?

      Oscar would be too big and he beat Kostya's two best wins way before he did and a did a hell of a lot better (he then went up & beat Sweet pea, Camacho etc). He beat the far superior versions almost a decade before!

      Floyd would outbox Kostya with some ease lets be real. I wouldn't fancy him in a tear up with Matthysse or Manny tbh & thats what it would be.

      Taking nothing away from the guy, great fighter but those are some of the best to ever do it, certainly amongst the best of the last 20 years.

      I'd give the guy a shot at beating Cotto & maybe a shot at getting a decision over Bradley. Both IMO quite unlikely but thats no knock to Kostya.
      Couldn't have said it better man.

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      • dan_cov
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        #23
        Not sure how can knock others saying they know **** when you have zero proof yourself. Boxing in general and fantasy fights are all about opinions, there is no real 100% correct or wrong answer.

        I try keep it real and back my opinions up with some logic whilst you throw around primary school name calling. Your whole argument for him winning is because he was undisputed champion? Held titles & accomplishments don't win fights.
        Zab Judah for example was an undisputed world champion, he also is a 6 time world champion does that mean he beats the whole list too?

        He got a gift against Matthysse, lost to Floyd & Cotto and would certainly lose to Bradley, Pacquiao!

        Hell the guys best win is probably, almost certainly against Corey Spinks, who he is tied 1-1 with.

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        • SCtrojansbaby
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          #24
          Originally posted by razor.thin
          how do you feel he would have done vs following @140

          mosley (i know he skipped it, but imagine)
          de la hoya
          mayweather
          cotto
          pacquiao
          bradley
          matthysse


          how many of these does he beat?
          Mosley, Mayweather and Pacquiao beat Kostya.

          Kostya KOs Bradley and Cotto with ease

          Can't give an opinion on Matthysse yet rehash in 3-4 years

          DLH is a very evenly matched fight if I had to pick I would probable say Kostya wins an extremely close fight or its a draw

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          • dan_cov
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            #25
            Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
            Mosley, Mayweather and Pacquiao beat Kostya.

            Kostya KOs Bradley and Cotto with ease

            Can't give an opinion on Matthysse yet rehash in 3-4 years

            DLH is a very evenly matched fight if I had to pick I would probable say Kostya wins an extremely close fight or its a draw


            Whilst Kostya had really good power in both hands, 1 punch K.O power you think he would K.O Bradley who has one hell of a chin and is one of the best conditioned fighters out there? Not saying he couldn't but my god can Bradley take a shot & he recovers very quickly & very well indeed.

            I'd certainly pick a prime 140 Oscar over Kostya; I think it would be quite one-sided too. Around that timeframe that for me was the best Oscar in his absolute prime.

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              #26
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              Nobody is denying Kostya was one hell of a fighter but is it really that difficult to believe that people think he would come unstuck against a prime Oscar, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquaio, Tim Bradley, Lucas Matthysse?

              Oscar would be too big and he beat Kostya's two best wins way before he did and a did a hell of a lot better (he then went up & beat Sweet pea, Camacho etc). He beat the far superior versions almost a decade before!

              Floyd would outbox Kostya with some ease lets be real. I wouldn't fancy him in a tear up with Matthysse or Manny tbh & thats what it would be.

              Taking nothing away from the guy, great fighter but those are some of the best to ever do it, certainly amongst the best of the last 20 years.

              I'd give the guy a shot at beating Cotto & maybe a shot at getting a decision over Bradley. Both IMO quite unlikely but thats no knock to Kostya.
              lol DLH beat MAG better than Tszyu did? That says everything we need to know about your worthless opinion.

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                #27
                Originally posted by dan_cov
                Whilst Kostya had really good power in both hands, 1 punch K.O power you think he would K.O Bradley who has one hell of a chin and is one of the best conditioned fighters out there? Not saying he couldn't but my god can Bradley take a shot & he recovers very quickly & very well indeed.

                I'd certainly pick a prime 140 Oscar over Kostya; I think it would be quite one-sided too. Around that timeframe that for me was the best Oscar in his absolute prime.
                Bradley has a great chin but Kostya had freakish power. It is hard to say if Bradley's chin would stand up to a well timed maxed out Kostya power shot. But when fighters felt Kostya's power they would very often get very wary and get taken out of their game. I remember him well when he was fighting and the impression he made and there was no question he was right up there. The Hatton fight was when he was past prime and tarnishes his memory just as the Mayweather and Manny fights have diminished Hatton in many people's eyes. But Kostya was a special fighter and right up there.

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                • dan_cov
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Khmelnytsky
                  lol DLH beat MAG better than Tszyu did? That says everything we need to know about your worthless opinion.

                  The main difference was Gonzalez was undefeated at the time Oscar beat him and practically shut him out he was also coming off some huge wins.
                  He'd had a loss, a draw and a rather shoddy performance going into the fight with Tyszu and he was unquestionably never the same again after Oscar & Chavez.

                  Oscar shutting out by far the more prime and better version is a better win than Tsyzu low-blowing & head butting his way to a TKO victory stopped on cuts as far as I am concerned.

                  I don't really care if you class Tyszu's performance as more impressive or what. Oscar had already destroyed him and Gonzalez was done by the time he fought Tyszu. Its easy too crack a rock once its already been cracked!
                  Last edited by dan_cov; 09-19-2012, 04:13 AM.

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                  • lfcdynasty
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                    #29
                    Man had no idea dude was so underrated on here...

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                    • Jam Jars
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by dan_cov
                      The main difference was Gonzalez was undefeated at the time Oscar beat him and practically shut him out he was also coming off some huge wins.
                      He'd had a loss, a draw and a rather shoddy performance going into the fight with Tyszu and he was unquestionably never the same again after Oscar & Chavez.

                      Oscar shutting out by far the more prime and better version is a better win than Tsyzu low-blowing & head butting his way to a TKO victory stopped on cuts as far as I am concerned.

                      I don't really care if you class Tyszu's performance as more impressive or what. Oscar had already destroyed him and Gonzalez was done by the time he fought Tyszu. Its easy too crack a rock once its already been cracked!
                      If we're going with performances against opponents Tszyu beat Judah and Mitchell before Mayweather and more impressively.

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