Who could beat a prime Vitali?

[Guest]

I like Vit as much as anyone but to jimmy it's inconceivable that he could ever be hurt by some of the best punchers of modern times.

I think Vit wins against a lot of guys, but to give no one a chance is absurd.

[jimmy1569]

I like Vit as much as anyone but to jimmy it's inconceivable that he could ever be hurt by some of the best punchers of modern times.

I think Vit wins against a lot of guys, but to give no one a chance is absurd.

I didn't say no one has a shot to be competitive. We've had some great heavyweights through the years. Absolutely no one has a shot of outboxing him.... i'll tell you right now.. it's practically impossible... i can go into full detail why it's NOT possible for other fighters to have done so but will go out one ear & come out the other because you'll all refuse to believe it when there's circumstantial evidence of it Nowhere near coming close to any fruition in ANY one of his bouts.

You say it's absurd... i say it can't be done... not in this lifetime & if my reasoning is that it's been done to EVERY other great heavyweight except Vitali then that's reasoning enough but since that's NOT good enough for all of you.. then i go into more detail as to how it can't be done.

Do you guys ever ASK YOURSELVES why Vitali Klitschko has nearly 20 heavyweight achievements that no one in the history of this division has ever been able to sniff? Do you NOT see a freakin' pattern here? Do i have to keep spelling it out for everyone... you have to be the most moronic boxing fan to keep harping on his opposition as an excuse for all of those twenty reasons.

THE only way for your reasons to be valid is if Vitali has FACED the worst comp for ANY CHAMPION in the history of the heavyweight division.. it's the ONLY way you can discredit all twenty of these unsurpassed marks of his. Even the worst hater Tko6 induced coma affiliated one will not be able to prove he's faced the worst comp out of hundreds & thousands of ranked heavyweight contenders & titlists over the years.


Vitali Klitschko is a byproduct of his own boxing skill & NOT of his opposition who are mere bystanders to it... it doesn't matter who you stick in front of him.. the results will have been similar. This fighter completely schools one of the best heavyweights that ever lived with or without cuts & we STILL go on pretending as if he didn't.. we still go on blaming his opposition when he's faced a top 5 heavyweight & outclassed him if NOT outcut him.

We HAVE proof AS to what he's capable of doing to the absolute best ALREADY BUT PRETEND as if he's faced all inferior opposition on his way to a recordbreaking boxing career. Who takes 8 OUT OF 9 RDS gainst Byrd WITH ONE HEALTHY arm? No ONE ELSE can. Even Holyfield who gutted out 12 rds with a shoulder ailment & is praised for it .. didn't even win 30 seconds of any part of all 12 rds.. yet because he went on for 3 more rds in siomehow similar condition. his NON effort gets valued while Vitali's worthwhile effort vs Byrd GETS devalued.. Only person who takes 8 out of 9 rds vs Byrd IS HIS brother & That's with two healthy shoulders. So there you have his two defeats smeared by everyone.. yet these defeats actually showedhis boxing superiority over two heavyweights who rarely get outboxed & outclassed.
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[devildg]

i would say Lennox and Holmes Ali and Foreman

you cant really go back to the old days with the smaller men, they wouldnt stand a chance

[jimmy1569]

Lennox Lewis.... could keep it competiive despite being outclassed but there's no way in hell he can think of outboxing Vitali as 56 more blows in 6 rds despite being physically hampered for more than half of it CLEARLY shows he'd never be able to do it no matter which version showed up. Just way too much of a gap... Vitali throws leather.. he doesn't just stand around waiting for openings he creates them.. even when he's missing his target.. he's still throwing leather. Lennox can ONLY think about knocking him out if cuts don't occur again & i think literally koing Klitschko STRAIGHTup IS more LIKELY tO OCCUR THAN anyone actually landing & throwing more leather than him despite BOTH never coming close to happening in his bouts...






That's how adamant i am about him Not BEING ABLE to be outboxed.... anyone can get lucky & throw a lucky punch to bring down an iron horse... His little bro is the ONLY other superheavy (i don't think Bowe would be competitive with him) & is the SOLE BOXER who could have had a chance to outbox him ONLY if he could have taken a punch... because he can't.. he wouldn't let his hands go enough to match Vitali's workrate & therefor bringing his jab into play.. sort of what Lewis did.

[jimmy1569]

Other's are just too small.. Holmes could throw the jab but had no power & was physically smaller.. For crying out loud Foreman WOULD BE DWARFED.... i'D like to see Big George get by VITALI'S jab & constant workrate.. ali.. pure magic but he had so many vulnerable fights... more than both bros combined..




He'd have to be at his absolute best in terms of speed & experience.. we'd probably have to take differing versions of Ali & COMBINE them into one just so he could compete with the size disparity.. Louis way too small.. same goes for marciano... no way they get by Vitali's hands down defense with the left jab in there face all night...




.Holyfiel.. fRazier would keep coming but that just would ensure heavy beatdowns for both.. Frazier.. way too small but holy would recieve the most punishment out of any of the past greats because of his refusal to take a back step & his extradorniary will.. IRON mIKE..... too small to get close to Vitali although he could lucky with a little bob & weaving get into range with a couple of winged shots that Vitali would have to absorb. Tua.. that left hook is so telegraphed compare IT to SANDERS non telegraphed ONE & YOU HAVE A 12 RDS TO NOTHING BEATDOWN if he's willing to take all the leather.



Bowe.. way too lazy. could do some good inside work & had a good jab but would be destroyed from the outside for it to matter. Wlad.. too apprehensive.. even Wlad prehugging would Not LET HIS HANDS GO FREELY vs Vitali. Vitali would be dictating in the ring & making the first move... one can take a punch.. one knows he can't... eventually vitali would get close enough to Wlad's jaw & it'd be all she wrote. Wlad certainly would reach Vitali but difference is Vitali would be able to absorb his shots & not vice a versa.

[damuttz112]

Isn't wobbling when the knees buckle? Not spinning.. stating exactly what happened. He was more stunned than anything.. he was never on the verge of going down.. any punch can potentially bring down a horse if you're caught off guard... no shame in Vitali backing up & gathering his wits about him. He weathered the storm in the early parts of the second & then the beatdown of all beatdowns mixed with a little bit of revenge transpired.. nothing more nothing less.

I love how you take one sentence & dissect it when the entire post explains his lack of defense in those tense moments.

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[jimmy1569]

Only 5 heavies have a shot of staying in the pocket vs him (Live underdogs)
1) Wladimir Klitschko
Superheavy
2) Lennox Lewis
Superheavy
3) Rid**** Bowe
Superheavy
4)George Foreman
Heavyweight slugger with exceptional power & girth
5)Mohammed Ali
Could trick himself & Vitali into believing he could compete
& had exceptional speed.

Everyone else can go to the bookmakers to see how lopsided of an underdog they are.

[damuttz112]

[jimmy1569]

Lol.... that Golfer will be well known as the ONLY legitimate & victorious opposition the Klitschko's have ever faced & before it's done.. he will have ko'ed a top 5 alltime great & subsequently have his HANDED to him in the vey next bout by the most dominant heavyweight that ever lived.. I'd say that's a good resume to have on any golf course around the globe.

[jimmy1569]

Laugh all you want that man on the left is the ONLY one to ever REALLY beat a Klitschko without having his A$$ HANDED TO HIM in the very same bout (he had his ass handed to him in the subsequent bout) For all you boxing historians/haters.